Quotes from Ellen White - You Decide

Did EW teach that aChristian ignoring the Sabbath for Sunday was taking mark of the Beast? Did she state that refusing to heed her doctrines as being from God meant peril to salvation?

 

Clearly we cannot get inside someone's head to see what they saw --- but the Bible says we can judge between true and false prophets by testing the doctrine that they claim God is endorsing - since God can never make a mistake or be in error.

 

He was answering them while under the old Covenant era still, correct?

 

Paul received direct revealtion from jesus, EW did Not!

 

The theology and doctrines that she came up with clash with revealed inspired scripture though...

 

The entirety of it is in Scripture??????? as in a detailed account found in the Original Languages/Manuscripts? And all of HER details found therein?????

 

They both got it from same source, the One that spoke to Adam and Eve.

 

To Sda, her writings are inspired....

 

Most of the SDa theology came directly from EW, so if one refused to see her as a modern Apostle/prophet, then the Sda fails the biblical test!

 

Do you have a specific, you would like to consider?

 

Anyhting that she would claim would be extra biblical though, correct?

 

Not to derail the current OP, but a rhetorical set of Q's: What "original mss" [like the one of Jeremiahs/Baruch's that was cut up [and burned by the King], or the other that was thrown into the river, or the 'original' Table of Commandments that were shattered by Moses himself, etc]? Do you have these "originals" to compare to? Of course not.

As for language, God [even Jesus], spake to Paul in Hebrew [original language], Acts 26:14 KJB, and yet it is recorded in Koine Greek [translated language] by Luke. God is the inspiration, and Luke was inspired of the Holy Spirit [for it is men that inspiration works upon, 2 Peter 1:21 KJB]. Numerous other examples could be given., however, it [any language] is better to be translated, so that there is understanding in the common tongue [see 1 Corinthians 14:19; Acts, etc]

Yet to the actual point, God does not require anyone to know 'original' languages, but to trust in His preservation and translation of the words themselves, by His Holy Spirit. Psalms 12:6-7; Acts 2:6, etc.

Yes, every detail is in scripture [KJB], for God does not contradict His word, and has magnified His word above all His name, and the Holy Spirit, speaks that which He hears, and not of Himself, and leads us into all Truth, and the scripture [John 10:35 KJB] is Truth.

Some of the details in such vision, are more difficult [not impossible] for us to show in a simple manner by a single text or two of scripture [KJB], for some plainly revealed details given in a vision, require a great deal of cross references, and study to show the equality between the two, Law and Testimonies. For instance, a 'picture' [a vision] is worth how many words, as the common wise saying goes?

 

Man, it is difficult to dialog with you two.

Is every single Detail of Ellen White's Vision easily identifiable in a modern english translation of the Bible?

 

As you will, but wisdom is justified of all her children.

It can be shown, but if you are not interested, it would be fruitless for me to attempt to do so. If your mind is made up already without a deep consideration from a brother who comes to you with such material, how is that following the Biblical principle of proving all things, despising not prophesyings, etc?

Proverbs 18:13 KJB - He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Proverbs 18:17 KJB - He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him.​

Even God allowed satan to demonstrate his point. Satan was wrong. [I am not equating you or anyone here to satan, its just a comparison of past behaviour, dealings]

I do not mind dialoguing, and find it refreshing. And thank you also for the sincerity in questions and kindness of dialgoue, and for the time, brother.

 

EW teachings and doctrines are in many ways possessed tot he Bible though...

 

You CANNOT show ANY scripture that would support God giving extra biblical revelation to EW outside of the Scriptures!

 

Is it a language [as in terminology or definition therein] barrier?

All Easily, no. Some easily, some things I had to study a long time, prayerfully and with much care.

Think of the visions of Ezekiel or of Daniel or of John in a comparison. Some things easy, some things very laborious and drawing out of the God-given brain [reasoning] power, under guidance of the Holy Spirit. God would not be the Great Teacher, if He just gave us the answer all the time without getting us to think, by questions, comparisons, etc.

 

So my follow-up question is: Can we find every detail of Ellen White's Vision in Scripture?