Continue.... part three.
Who then will be the sheep on earth during the millennial reign
"...The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said,
NAY(no), lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
LET BOTH GROW TOGETHER UNTIL THE HARVEST: and in the TIME of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." - Matt. 13:28b-30.
The servants ask to their master, should we go ahead gathering the tares? The master tells them, NO, leave them, let BOTH tares and wheat growing TOGETHER TILL the harvest comes.
That means, both unbelievers and believers are growing together over the world today. Believers
CANNOT be separate from unbelievers TILL the end of the age come - Matt 13:39-42.
Matt 25:31-46 is same with Matt 13:39-42 ALSO, in Rev. 14:14-20 talks about the harvest at the end of the age.
Bible tells us,
ALLLLLL unbelievers shall be cast away into everlasting punishment, NO unbelievr shall be left remain after the second advent - Matt 24:37-39. Remember the lesson of the flood, when the flood came and destroyed all people,
NO unbeliever survived after the flood, EVERY unbelievers were dead, only 8 people alive left!
Same with at the coming of Christ shall be!
1 Cor. 15:50 tells us, NO mortal person shall enter the eternality kingdom.
None anywhere in the context of Matthew chapter 25 describe about 'a thousand years'. Matthew 25:31-46 tells us, WHEN Christ comes with his angels, He shall sit on the throne - great white throne, and all people shall be gathering into divided unto two groups - believers and unbelievers. All unbelievers shall enter everlasting punishment - lake of fire - Matt 25:46. But, all believers shall have ETERNAL LIFE - Matt 25:46. Matt 25:46 does not saying a believer shall die DURING millennial kingdom according to premill doctrine.
1 Cor. 15:51-54 tells us, when Christ comes,
ALLLLLLLLLLLLL of us as believers shall all changed into IMMORTALITY. Immortlaity means never dying, never die forever and ever. Amen.
Once, Christ comes, we all shall be caught up, and change into immortality body, that means we shall have glory new body be like Christ and angels, we shall NEVER, NEVER die again forever!
There is no scriptural support premill doctrine teaches that any remain survivors(who will miss rapture, shall be saved during tribulation period) will be remain in mortal and enter millennial kingdom, but they will die during millennial kingdom.
How about Isa. 65:20? Often premill uses that verse to prove that people shall live longer, and will die during millennial kingdom.
The problem is, none in the context of Isaiah chapter 65 mentioned about 'a thousand years'.
The context of Isaiah 65 is the picture of future perfect eternality conditional, that would be at the second coming.
Notice Isa, 65:17-20 talk about future new heavens and a new earth. Isa. 65:17-20 refer with 2 Peter 3:12-13 and Rev. 21:1-4. Obivously, Isa. 65:17-20 talk about future perfect eternality conditional, that we shall dwell on them.
There are two parts of Isa. 65:20, the first part of Isa. 65:20 speaks of believer shall never die again, because believer shall become into immortality same with 1 Cor. 15:51-54.
It says, "There shall be NO MORE thence an infant of days, NOR an old man that hath not filled his days
:", - Isa. 65:20a It tells us, a person shall never be dying again, because person shall become into immortality - 1 Cor. 15:51-54. Also, Isa. 65:20a is same with Rev. 21:4 -"there shall be
NO MORE DEATH". Obivously, all people shall be immortality, and they shall dwell in New Jerusalem forever and ever.
"for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the SINNER being an hundred years old(why???)
shall be ACCURSED"
It does not take literally, that a person would die at EXACTLY age 100, it tells us, sinner shall be die, because of judged.
Romans 5:12 tells us, every sinners have to die, because of Adam sinned, then he passed to all people have sinned, that why we have to die.
Notice there is parallel between Isa. 65:17-20 & Isa. 66:22-24 talk about new heavens and a new earth. Notice verse 24 talk about sinner/unbeliever shall be suffer in the lake of fire with worms and fire shall never stop. Isa. 66:24 refers with Mark 9:
44,
46, and
48 - "worms dieth not, and the fire is not quenched".
Obivously, Isa. 65:20b, Isa. 66:24 talk about sinners/unbelievers shall be suffer punishment into the lake of fire is eternality punishment!
I hope that you understand what Isa. 65:20 talk about.
how will Rev. 20:8 be fulfilled if this (rapture) takes place at the end of tribulation?
Ok, let discuss on Gog and Magog.
Many believe Ezekiel 38 and 39 shall be happen at the end of tribulation period.
Notice several have different view on the timing of Ezekiel 38-39.
Some believe it will be occur sometimes before tribulation period begins.
Some believe it will be occur at the beginning of tribulation period.
Some believe it will be occur during in the middle of seven year tribulation period.
Some believe it will be occur at the end of Tribulation period.
EVEN, some believe believe it will be occur at the end of millennium.
Which one of them is correct?
I believe Ezekiel 38 and 39 will be occur at the end of tribulation period? Why? Before I start to discuss on it.
How about Ezk. 39:9? It tells us, they shall burn the weapons for SEVEN YEARS.
I heard several pretribbers saying on Ezk 39:9 is a good possible to prove there is seven year of Tribulation period. Is that correct?
If suppose they saying Ezekiel 38 & 39 will be occur at the beginning of tribulation period, it is correct.
So, when the armies invaded against Israel, all armies be destroyed, they shall clean all weapons, and cast them in fire for the next seven years. Then when after the seven years past, all weapons all are finally done and clean. But, not again, there is ANOTHER invasion of armies toward Israel. After all armies are destroyed, they would HAVE TO burn all weapons all over again for ANOTHER seven years total is 14 years.
Is that make a sense? No.
If suppose, they believe the invasion of Ezk. 38 & 39 will be occur during in the mid of tribulation period, after the armies are destroyed, they will burn all weapons for the next seven years. But, not again by in the HALF-WAY, there is another invasion again, they would HAVE TO burn all weapons all over for another seven years total is 10 1/2 years.
Is that make a sense? No.
If suppose, they believe the invasion will be occur at the end of tribulation period is correct.
I believe it will be occur at the end of Tribulation period.
Why I believe it will be occur at the end of tribulation period.
I want to show you the most important KEY word of Ezekiel 38 & 39 is "
FOWL".
Remember, notice important word - 'fowl'. Why 'fowl'?
Notice Ezekiel 39:17-20 tell us, God shall send fowls down to eaten all people because of judgement.
Why I emphasis on word, 'fowl'?
Fowl means vultures or deadly birds.
I have a good reason why I believe Ezekiel 38 & 39 will be occur at the end of tribulation period.
Go look in Matt. 24:28 says, "For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the
EAGLES be gathered together."
I believe Matt 24:28 speaks of the battle of armageddon, that the eagles shall be gathering together, then fly down to eaten armies' skin.
Also, look to Luke 17:34-37, Christ tells us, there shall be thief in the night, person shall be caught away. The disciples do not understand Him, they asked, where? Christ said, "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the
EAGLES be gathered together."
Luke 17:34-37 tells us, when Christ comes, all unbelievers shall be taken away, He shall send vultures fly down and eaten unbelievers. That would be at the battle of armageddon.
Now, look to Rev. 19:17-18 tell us, the angel shall call fowls flying together, and fly down to eaten unbelievers.
Clearly, Ezekiel 39:17-20, Matt. 24:28, Luke 17:37, and Rev. 19:17-18 are all fit together speak of one future judgement day, to send fowlws to eaten unbelievers that shall be at the end of tribulation period.
I am no doubt the timing of Ezekiel 38 & 39 will be occur at the end of tribulation period.
How about Ezk. 39:9 - 'seven years'??
I have good reason why the weapons shall be burn for seven years after the second advent.
I have an illustration:
Pretribulation teaches that the judgement seat of Christ shall be begin at the tribulaiton period. The judgment seat of Christ will take at least seven years, then after that, Christians shall have the marriage supper of the Lamb. If suppose, they are correct.
That means, about 200 millions of alived Christians caught up. Then, God shall judge all 200 millions of alived Christians.
How long, God shall judge 200 millions of alived Christians?
Let's do math.
To figure out see how long it take to judge all 200 millions.
Let start with seconds.
60 seconds equal a minute. 60 seconds x 60 minutes = 3600 seconds equal one hour. 3600 seconds x 24 hours = 86,400 seconds equal one day. 86,400 seconds x 365 days = 31,536,000 seconds equal one year. 31,536,000 seconds x 7 years = 220,752,000 seconds.
To judge 220 millions of alive Christians will take for 7 years. That means, God would have to judge one person for average one to two seconds.
Do God have enough time to judge all alive Christians while He prepared for the marriage supper of the Lamb? How about millions of dead Christians from the creation to the 'end of the Church age'? God knows it is no time to set marriage supper of the Lamb. God would have to be hurry to judge all Christians squeeze into limited seven years of tribulation period. No time for the marriage supper of the Lamb. What Christians do with supper, while riding with Christ on horses to earth? Christians would have to take lunch bag with sandwiche with them ride on horses to follow Christ come down to earth.
Does the timing of judgement seat of Christ according to pretrib doctrine - make a sense?
NO!
I have no problem with Ezekiel 39:9. I agree that the weapons shall be burn for seven years. Why?
The great white throne will take for long, long, long time take so many years to judge ALLLLLL people from the creation to the end of the age, Christ shall judge billions and billions of people. I have no problem with Ezekiel 39:9.
Because they shall burn the weapons WHILE the great white throne is under the way same time. They clean and burn the weapons for only seven years. But the great white throne will take so many years to come. No problem, after they done with all weapons, then, they will be invlove to watch the great white throne.
You might not agree with my logical about the timing of Gog and Magog. That is fine with me.
Some saying Gog battles will be twice according to Rev. 20:8.
Does Ezekiel 38, 39 saying it will be occur TWICE??? None. It tells us, it will be occur at once.
Do you see Gog and Magog mentioned TWO times in the book of Revelation? No.
Understand, book of Revelation is not chronological. It shown of retelling the events, it shows of cycles and parallels.
Revelation chapter 19 ends at the second advent. Revelation chapter 20 ends at the second advent.
Hey, why not 'fowls' mentioned in Revelation 20?
It is not necesscary to tell repeat. There are many details to describel what will be happen AT Christ's coming.
Zechariah 14:4 does not mentioned resurrection. Matt. 24:31 does not mentioned resurrection.
Revelation chapter 19 does not mentioned rapture/resurrection.
Does that mean rapture/resurrection is exclude from Zech. 14:4, Matt 24:31, and Rev 19? No.
Understand, there are many details what will be happen AT Christ's coming.
Boy! This post is so long. I better stop now. I will make another post to be continue - part four.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
