Rattlesnakes?

[OldRegular]

I got the following in an mail. The man has a novel, for this politically correct era, approach!

As long as we insist on maintaining the "moral high ground" we will NEVER win the war on terrorism! We're in a conflict in which we absolutely INSIST in playing by the rules against a maniacal group who have NO rules.

After the Boston bombing the news media spent days and weeks trying to determine why these men did what they did. They want to know what America did(!) to make these brothers so angry with us. They want to know why these men were not arrested before they did something so terrible. The media is in a tizzy about this new era of homegrown radicals and about why and how they can live among us and still hate us.

A friend of mine from Texas explained it all to me: “Here in west Texas, I have rattlesnakes on my place, living among us. I have killed a rattlesnake on the front porch. I have killed a rattlesnake on the back porch. I have killed rattlesnakes in the barn, in the shop and on the driveway. In fact, I kill every rattlesnake I encounter.

I kill rattlesnakes because I know a rattlesnake will bite me and inject me with poison. I don’t stop to wonder WHY a rattlesnake will bite me; I know it WILL bite me because it's a rattlesnake and that's what rattlesnakes do. I don’t try to reason with a rattlesnake or have a "meaningful dialogue" with it…I just kill it. I don’t try to get to know the rattlesnake better so I can find a way to live with the rattlesnakes and convince them not to bite me. I just kill them. I don’t quiz a rattlesnake to see if I can find out where the other snakes are, because (a) it won’t tell me and (b) I already know they live on my place. So, I just kill the rattlesnake and move on to the next one.

I don’t look for ways I might be able to change the rattlesnake to a non-poisonous rat snake...I just kill it. Oh, and on occasion, I accidentally kill a rat snake because I thought it was a rattlesnake at the time. Also, I know for every rattlesnake I kill, two more are lurking out there in the brush. In my lifetime I will never be able to rid my place of rattlesnakes.

Do I fear them? Not really. Do I respect what they can do to me and my family? Yes!! And because of that respect, I give them the fair justice they deserve....I kill them... As a country, we should start giving more thought to the fact that these jihadists' are telling the world their goal is to kill Americans and destroy our way of life. They have just posted two graphic videos on the internet showing them beheading Americans. They are serious. They are exactly like rattlesnakes. It is high time for us to start acting accordingly!

I love this country. It's the damn government I'm afraid of!

Look who's in the White House!

Arif Alikhan, Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U.S. Department of Homeland Securi

Mohammed Elibiary, Homeland Security Advise

Rashad Hussain, Special Envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference(OIC

Salam al-Marayati, Obama Adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council and is its current executive directo

Imam Mohamed Magid, Obama's Sharia Czar from the Islamic Society of North America

Eboo Patel, Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnership

This is flat-out scary

The foxes are now officially living in the hen house..

Now ask me why I am very concerned!

Do you feel OK with this

How can this happen, and when will we wake up? We are quiet while our Country is being drastically changed!

 

[Rippon]

That list is alarming. And it certainly is a wake-up call that needs to be sounded.

 

[matt wade]

Should America (home of the free and the brave) limit those than can be in governmental positions based on their religion?

What happens when the Catholics are in office? Are you ok with them banning all Baptists?

 

[Don]

I normally agree with OR; and I've had my run-ins with Matt. But I'm with Matt on thos one.

Sorry, OR; that message doesn't pass the giggle test.

Consider: in order for the analogy of rattlesnakes and jihadists to work, one must accept as fact that anyone with a middle eastern name is a jihadist. If you can't say definitively that every middle eastern person is a jihadist--and remember, many of those middle easterners are not muslim, but hindu, sikh, and other non-muslim middle eastern religions--then the analogy is ludicrous and bordering on, if not flat-out, racist.

As Matt pointed out: one of the main premises of the founding of our country is religious freedom; not religious freedom only for Christians.

 

[matt wade]

I normally agree with OR; and I've had my run-ins with Matt. But I'm with Matt on thos one.

Sorry

No need to apologize for being on the side of freedom .

 

[church mouse guy]

That list is alarming. And it certainly is a wake-up call that needs to be sounded.

We should stop Islamic immigration to the USA forever. Here in the area where I live we have the Islamic Society of North America, a Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization umbrella agency. Long ago Islam began a slow infiltration of the USA.

Islam is not a religion but a military, political organization with some nationalistic Arab theology thrown in for good measure. It resembles Nazism or Stalinism.

It is an error to assign religious liberty to Islam just as it would be an error to assign religious liberty to the KKK because they burn crosses.

 

[OldRegular]

Should America (home of the free and the brave) limit those than can be in governmental positions based on their religion?

What happens when the Catholics are in office? Are you ok with them banning all Baptists?

Muslims are being given preferential treatment in this country. In Minnesota colleges installed foot baths for Muslim students to wash their feet before prayer. {Sand boxes would have sufficed.} Some Federal judges are recognizing Sharia law in certain cases. An Oklahoma Constitutional Amendment banning use of Sharia Law was struck down by a Federal Judge!

Oklahoma Ban on Sharia Law Unconstitutional, US Judge Rules

An Oklahoma federal judge struck down a state constitutional amendment that forbade its courts from considering Islamic law in judicial decisions.

The constitutional amendment — approved by more than 70% of Oklahoma voters in 2010 — was part of a broader national push led by a handful of organizations that claim Islamic Sharia law is creeping into courtrooms. WSJ wrote about the anti-Sharia movement last year.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/08/16/oklahoma-ban-on-sharia-law-unconstitutional-us-judge-rules/

 

[OldRegular]

We should stop Islamic immigration to the USA forever. Here in the area where I live we have the Islamic Society of North America, a Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization umbrella agency. Long ago Islam began a slow infiltration of the USA.

Islam is not a religion but a military, political organization with some nationalistic Arab theology thrown in for good measure. It resembles Nazism or Stalinism.

It is an error to assign religious liberty to Islam just as it would be an error to assign religious liberty to the KKK because they burn crosses.

Well said! I agree wholeheartedly!

The impact of increased Muslim population is shown in the following:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for

Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

http://www.examiner.com/article/as-muslim-population-grows-what-can-happen-to-a-society

 

[church mouse guy]

Muslims are being given preferential treatment in this country. In Minnesota colleges installed foot baths for Muslim students to wash their feet before prayer. {Sand boxes would have sufficed.} Some Federal judges are recognizing Sharia law in certain cases. An Oklahoma Constitutional Amendment banning use of Sharia Law was struck down by a Federal Judge!

We have a new airport here in Indianapolis and they installed foot baths for the taxi drivers who are Somalians, etc. I think that Minneapolis has over 100,000 Somalians.

 

[church mouse guy]

On your statistics on the impact of Islamists in free countries, even a low percentage means trouble. In Canada, they have demands for sharia law in certain cities. In much of Europe, there is an epidemic of rape. What happens is that the Islamists take over whole cities. In France and elsewhere, there are whole areas where the police do not go.

Islamists have 4 wives and put the additional wives and children on welfare.

It is as if we are paying for parasites to infect us.

 

[OldRegular]

We have a new airport here in Indianapolis and they installed foot baths for the taxi drivers who are Somalians, etc. I think that Minneapolis has over 100,000 Somalians.

Consider Dearborn, Michigan! I heard about this on the news, fox I suppose since I watch no other!

Saturday, April 23, 2011
The Muslim influence in Dearborn, Michigan prosecutor's office.

Yesterday, in a courtroom in Dearborn, Michigan, an American citizen was stripped of his 1st Amendment Constitutional rights by a legal system influenced by a local Islamic mosque. You may have heard that Florida pastor Terry Jones applied for a permit from the city of Dearborn to stage a protest in front of the Islamic Center of America. He was brought before a judge and prosecuted like a criminal by Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy because she said Pastor Jones' protest could lead to violent counter-protests. I must ask the obvious, who would be creating a violent counter-protest, the Religion of Peace? Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs writes:

Jailed Jones Prosecutor "Un-Worthy's" Alliances
Terry Jones was sent to jail in Michigan over a planned protest outside the largest Islamic Center in the U.S. I have seen the most vile displays of subversion, anti-Americanism, Jew-hatred and violence at anti-war rallies during the Bush years. No one said boo. It's free speech. The KKK marches, no one says boo, it's free speech. Monsters protest military funerals, it's free speech. Nazis in Skokie? A-OK. But Islamic jihadis launch the most brutal and bloody attack on America on September 11, 2001, and we haven't stopped apologizing. And now we have turned over our soul, the heart of our freedom.

Pastor Terry Jones never came close to The Islamic Center of America before standing trial to try and get a permit to protest there.

"We definitely will not burn the Koran, we will have no type of burning of Mohammad, those type of things will not take place," said Jones before the trial. But after a short hearing the jury decided his past actions were enough to deny a permit for public protest.

The judge in the case ordered Jones to pay a one dollar bond. When he refused, the judge sent him to jail.

"We are not here demonstrating against the Koran, against their faith, against their rights, we are demonstrating against that radical element," said Jones.

A short time later though, the bond was posted, and Jones went free, with orders from the judge to stay away from the Islamic Center of America for three years.

"With freedom comes responsibility. Speak freely, but don't accuse freely," said Imam Mohammad Ali Elahi of the Islamic House of Wisdom.

The Wayne County prosecutor, Kym Worthy, said fears that Mr. Jones could incite violent counterprotests led them to court. (NY Times)​

Pamela Geller reveals that Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy has some uncomfortably close connections to the Muslim community in Dearborn, Michigan. Worthy was the keynote speaker at a prominent Arab American awards dinner. Geller writes:

The collusion and coziness between Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy and the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee bears scrutiny. At a dinner, Worthy spoke at at the ADC, and said:

"I learned that a prosecutors' most important role is to control what cases get into the system, to ensure that justice is done for everyone." "I want people to say when they were in the Wayne County prosecutor's office that they were treated fairly due to our commitment to civil rights and social justice,"​

The admission that this prosecutor makes, "I learned that a prosecutors' most important role is to control what cases get into the system," also says she won't allow any cases into the court system that damage the reputation of her Muslim friends.

The story on Atlas Shrugs contains a wealth of documented details on the collusion between the Wayne County Prosecutor and the local Muslim community. The most telling is this background excerpt about the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee that says:

In 1994, then-ADC President Hamzi Moghrabi said, “I will not call [Hamas] a terrorist organization. I mean, I know many people in Hamas. They are very respectable … I don’t believe Hamas, as an organization, is a violent organization.” Two years later, his successor, Hala Maksoud, defended Hamas’ partner in Mideastern terrorism, Hezbollah. “I find it shocking,” Maksoud said, “that [one] would include Hezbollah in … [an] inventory of Middle East ‘terrorist’ groups.” In 2000, new ADC President Hussein Ibish characterized Hezbollah as “a disciplined and responsible liberation force.” James Abourezk called Hamas and Hezbollah “resistance fighters.”​

I've always believed in the adage that a picture is worth a thousand words so I searched Google images to find some pictures of the "respectable" group Hamas and the "disciplined and responsible liberation force" Hezbollah. This is what I found.​

http://oldironsides-thesilentmajori...04/muslim-influence-in-dearborn-michigan.html​

People better wake up. All this is happening while there is a concerted attack on Christianity by the leftist democrats.​

 

[righteousdude2]

No need to apologize for being on the side of freedom .

YOu may not remember the saying that "Your freedoms go as far as the tip of my nose! When your freedom hits my nose, it is no longer freedom!"

We have age and citizenship requirements for public offices, as well as residency requirements, so I see nothing wrong with requiring public office holders holding to the principles America was built upon. If they want to be a radical Muslim, let them move to a country that is under the rule of radical Islam and run for office there.

Freedom has a price, and it definitely has its demarcation lines and perimeters!

 

[OldRegular]

YOu may not remember the saying that "Your freedoms go as far as the tip of my nose! When your freedom hits my nose, it is no longer freedom!"

We have age and citizenship requirements for public offices, as well as residency requirements, so I see nothing wrong with requiring public office holders holding to the principles America was built upon. If they want to be a radical Muslim, let them move to a country that is under the rule of radical Islam and run for office there.

Freedom has a price, and it definitely has its demarcation lines and perimeters!

Because of "political correctness" and the "deliberate blindness" of some people Muslims are having an exceptional influence in this country relative to their numbers! {Reference post # 8.}

 

[matt wade]

YOu may not remember the saying that "Your freedoms go as far as the tip of my nose! When your freedom hits my nose, it is no longer freedom!"

We have age and citizenship requirements for public offices, as well as residency requirements, so I see nothing wrong with requiring public office holders holding to the principles America was built upon. If they want to be a radical Muslim, let them move to a country that is under the rule of radical Islam and run for office there.

Freedom has a price, and it definitely has its demarcation lines and perimeters!

The principles America was built upon was religious freedom and no religious test for office. Maybe you need to go reread our Constitution (you know one of those things that defined the principles America was built upon). Let me quote for you:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

 

[church mouse guy]

Islam is a political and military system much like Stalinism/Nazism--the fact that there is a dogma/theology does not make it a religion anymore than communism and fascism who also had a set of beliefs or a theology is a religion. No one ever seriously considered them as religions.

 

[matt wade]

Islam is a political and military system much like Stalinism/Nazism--the fact that there is a dogma/theology does not make it a religion anymore than communism and fascism who also had a set of beliefs or a theology is a religion. No one ever seriously considered them as religions.

Trying to say Islam is not a religion just makes you look foolish. You really should stop.

 

[church mouse guy]

Trying to say Islam is not a religion just makes you look foolish. You really should stop.

Yet you constantly ignore the military-political system of Islam in your analysis of the religion. Mohammed was both a general and a head of state as well as a husband of little girls. So his theology is more like Stalinism in that it is a cult of personality that has specific legal prescriptions for states and, as typical of oriental despotism, it combines the head of the religion and the head of state in the systematic pure form of Islam. If it is a pure religion, then it is a temple of doom type system. What other religion of the world calls for systematic female genital mutilation--well, maybe Buddhism.

 

[matt wade]

Yet you constantly ignore the military-political system of Islam in your analysis of the religion. Mohammed was both a general and a head of state as well as a husband of little girls. So his theology is more like Stalinism in that it is a cult of personality that has specific legal prescriptions for states and, as typical of oriental despotism, it combines the head of the religion and the head of state in the systematic pure form of Islam. If it is a pure religion, then it is a temple of doom type system. What other religion of the world calls for systematic female genital mutilation--well, maybe Buddhism.

You do realize that Jesus Christ will lead an army and set up a kingdom here on this earth, right? That's a military-political system as well. If you wish to declassify Islam as a religion for your above reasons, then you must also declassify Christianity.

 

[church mouse guy]

You do realize that Jesus Christ will lead an army and set up a kingdom here on this earth, right? That's a military-political system as well. If you wish to declassify Islam as a religion for your above reasons, then you must also declassify Christianity.

What a false analogy! You are saying that Muhammad is like the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. You are saying that Christianity is a temple of doom wherein girls are mutilated and priests are also dictators and people are beheaded by terrorists. That is what is wrong with your classification of Islam as less than a complex of military, political and Arab nationalistic prescriptions combined.

 

[matt wade]

What a false analogy! You are saying that Muhammad is like the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. You are saying that Christianity is a temple of doom wherein girls are mutilated and priests are also dictators and people are beheaded by terrorists. That is what is wrong with your classification of Islam as less than a complex of military, political and Arab nationalistic prescriptions combined.

I see you aren't able to engage the part of your brain that applies logic. Have a good day sir.