But you tell them that since they break the 10 commandments, they need to be saved. What if someone you know comes along and hears you and knows that you divorced your wife for no biblical reason? I'd say that is pretty hypocritical, wouldn't you?
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But you tell them that since they break the 10 commandments, they need to be saved. What if someone you know comes along and hears you and knows that you divorced your wife for no biblical reason? I'd say that is pretty hypocritical, wouldn't you?
I have no interest in hearing from more critics (this board is full of them). I only listen to people that I know and see in person. They are not as judgmental as people on this board and actually know far more of the story.
If they knew the whole story of the divorce (which you do not) they would be in agreement with me for what was done. My mistake was ever mentioning it on this terrible board. So many critics and they multiply like rabbits.
Alright .... I'll respect that. I had no intention of critiquing you or judging you, only trying to understand somethings more.
I'll not send a PM, then.
I have told you all along the way that you had no right to badmouth your wife on a public forum. Others here have said the same. I said that your priority was to get right with her --spend time with her --be a father to your child. What should have been priorities --you neglected. You always put yourself first. You always want to justify yourself. You could have prevented the divorce by honoring her and being Christ-like in your protection of her.
Are we to walk in lockstep with you and affirming all your actions?
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We already talked about this. Unless she was unfaithful, you had no biblical reason to divorce her and you admitted that. That means you are in disobedience and rebellion to the Lord Jesus Christ. What is there to understand about that?
Some scholars allow for abuse as a factor.
And what verse would that be?
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The Bible is not the Holy, infallible word of some scholars. It is the Word of God. As much as I appreciate education, I would take God's Word over the word of a man any day. Men make mistakes after all.
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I understand the reasoning some would allow abuse as a factor, but I didn't realize there were scholars who held that posistion. Who are the scholars that view such abuse as biblical grounds for divorce?
Scholars that you sought out and now take their advice over others who quote the Bible because these "scholars" meet with your approval. Itchy ears.
Craig S. Keener has written a essay in the book I am reading called and says one can get remarried for abuse.
Suppose your wife one day came home and pointed a gun at you. Is this not grounds for divorce?
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Red Herring! Whether my wife would or would not point a gun at me is irrelevant to the issue of the Authority of God and the authority of man.
But for what it's worth, my wife would not point a gun at me because we do not have that type of relationship. We work hard together to stay in the Word and to honor God with our relationship. It takes effort to make any relationship work, but we seek to honor and cherish each other as God designed.
But for what it's worth, my wife would not point a gun at me because we do not have that type of relationship. We work hard together to stay in the Word and to honor God with our relationship. It takes effort to make any relationship work, but we seek to honor and cherish each other as God designed.
Well these are the arguments that keener makes. Does the Bible need to spell everything out for you? If a spouse shot the other in the leg, sold all your possessions, or became very mean and murdered someone and may murder you are these not grounds for divorce? Keener makes the reader think.
Thanks for the info. What I gather is he believes Jesus in Mark 10:11 to be using "adultry" to illustrate the seriousness of divorce, but as long as the divorce was the other persons fault God accepts both the divorce and a remarriage.
http://www.craigkeener.com/when-would-jesus-permit-divorce/
Very interesting. His reasoning seems very much in line with Mel White...only with different topics.
Did that happen to you?
Read the essay in the book. Anyway it was not my fault! She initiated the whole process I just finished it. My stress level, anxiety, and such were harmful being married to her. She was very verbally abusive at times, mistreated me and such. I finished the process that she initiated and so got out of a harmful marriage. She also refused any type of reconciliation and made no effort to reconcile.
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