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Rush Limbaugh offers challenge to Ried

KenH

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Bro. Curtis said:
I hate the way he's trying to force the S-CHIP bill through, despite what the American people want.

Aren't the majority of Americans backing the Democrats on SCHIP?
 

hillclimber1

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Bro. Curtis said:
:BangHead:

Sigh.........


BiR rants about Rush's private life, but does not see why anyone accuses him of hating Rush....

I admit to seeing why people say I hate certain folks.

I want BiR to admit the same thing.

I don't want to talk with you, anymore.

The best way to deal with BiR and others is to not engage them. Now, if I could only take that to heart. One of his tactics is to demand proof, where only an opinion is offered.....a bit exasperating, and the main reason I don't waste my time.
Oh, and add dagwood, or whatever he calls himself to your ignore list.
 
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Baptist in Richmond

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Bro. Curtis said:
Are you saying servicepeople need folks like Dingy Harry to tell them who supports them and who doesn't, because they can't figure it out for themselves ?

I didn't say anything about the Nevada Senator....

Your words indicate hatred of the man, whether you say the word, or not.

Very clearly a case of false witness on your part, Bro. Curtis. I am quite surprised by this statement. I expected more from you.
I have never expressed a hatred of Rush Limbaugh, nor have I used words synonymous with "hate" in the description of my feelings toward him. That is a fact that cannot be argued.

Again, please stick to what I write, not to what you think I say or feel.

Bro. Curtis said:
:BangHead:
BiR rants about Rush's private life, but does not see why anyone accuses him of hating Rush....

Simply stating fact does not constitute hatred, Bro. Curtis, and you know this. Never have I accused you of hating Al Franken, have I?

I admit to seeing why people say I hate certain folks.

I want BiR to admit the same thing.

BiR does not hate Rush Limbaugh. You can claim that all you want, and you are still wholly and completely wrong. BiR does not hate Rush Limbaugh, or anybody for that matter.

This is a rather disturbing post from you.

Regards,
BiR
 
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Baptist in Richmond

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hillclimber1 said:
The best way to deal with BiR and others is to not engage them. Now, if I could only take that to heart. One of his tactics is to demand proof, where only an opinion is offered.....a bit exasperating, and the main reason I don't waste my time.

How convenient for you, hillclimber1:
You can simply make a statement, and then ignore anyone who calls you on it.

As far as your claim that you were simply offering an opinion:
Originally Posted by hillclimber1
You Rush haters ought to stick to a more factual line of reasoning.



Again, please show us where anyone used the word "hate" to describe their feelings for Rush. As for your request for a more "factual line of reasoning," please show us where anyone strayed from the facts.

Of course, you have made it clear that you have no desire to get preoccupied with something as frivolous as supporting a claim you make.

Regards anyway,
BiR
 

Bro. Curtis

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Baptist in Richmond said:
Very clearly a case of false witness on your part, Bro. Curtis. I am quite surprised by this statement. I expected more from you.
I have never expressed a hatred of Rush Limbaugh, nor have I used words synonymous with "hate" in the description of my feelings toward him. That is a fact that cannot be argued.

If you don't hate him, engage his points, you know ? Debate what he says. Constantly harping on someone's negative personality traits indicates a passion, of some sort. It's not indifference. Looks, sounds, & smells like hatred.

Again, please stick to what I write, not to what you think I say or feel.

I have.


Simply stating fact does not constitute hatred, Bro. Curtis, and you know this. Never have I accused you of hating Al Franken, have I?

I don't personally know Al Franken. But I hate everything he stands for, and have no problem saying it.


BiR does not hate Rush Limbaugh. You can claim that all you want, and you are still wholly and completely wrong. BiR does not hate Rush Limbaugh, or anybody for that matter.

OK, so I'll wait for you to address the original topic, and not Limbaugh's failures.

This is a rather disturbing post from you.

Regards,
BiR

Rush Limbaugh raised $4.2 million for an excellent charity, at the same time, exposing how a democrat run America will function. That's just gotta stick in yer craw, I know.

Regards back atcha.
 

Baptist in Richmond

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Bro. Curtis said:
If you don't hate him, engage his points, you know ? Debate what he says. Constantly harping on someone's negative personality traits indicates a passion, of some sort. It's not indifference. Looks, sounds, & smells like hatred.

One more time: you are wrong, Bro. Curtis.


Then please show me where I ever implied a hatred for Limbaugh. Simply stating facts (and what I wrote is true) is not hatred.

I don't personally know Al Franken. But I hate everything he stands for, and have no problem saying it.

You didn't answer my question though. I have never accused you of hating him, have I?

OK, so I'll wait for you to address the original topic, and not Limbaugh's failures.

Again, I simply stated fact. Remember - to quote him loosely from one of his ads for LifeLock: actions really do speak louder than words.

Rush Limbaugh raised $4.2 million for an excellent charity, at the same time, exposing how a democrat run America will function. That's just gotta stick in yer craw, I know.

More disconcerting to me is that you are regurgitating one of Rush's favorite things. The proper phrase would be "Democratically." Notice that it is a capital "D" to indicate the party. Rush simply loves to repeat "Democrat party" ad nauseum, as this was a talking point that was picked up by all the other wannabe's on talk radio. Notice that even the POTUS doesn't do this anymore. That is a fun Rush game: count how many times he says "Democrat party" every hour.

This is true, Rush did raise money for an excellent charity. But Rush certainly got a lot of mileage out of this story, didn't he? He certainly devoted a TON of time promoting this, didn't he? Did you hear when he talked about NBC's Today show wanting to do a story on this whole ordeal, and asked him to come on the air? What about that article in the New York Times? Then he claimed on the air that the media wasn't interested in the story.

Here is an article about the conversation that started the whole thing:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710190006

And no: contrary to what Rush loves to claim, MediaMatters is not a front group for the Clintons. Rush knows that, but likes to claim it anyway.

Regards back atcha.

Hope all is well in Big Sky Country.

[Stop current discussion]
There is a very strong possibility that I am going to be relocated to the Midwest, so I have been spending every weekend touring the Commonwealth. I was down at False Cape State Park two weekends in a row.

http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/state_parks/fal.shtml

There is no vehicular access, so it's an easy five-mile hike / bikeride down to the park. A completely-vacant beach awaits you.

Next up is the Virginia Creeper:

http://www.vacreepertrail.com/

Bring your wife and those sweet Cannondales you own, and let's double date.

[Resume current discussion]


Lots of Christian love to the two of you,
BiR
 
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Dagwood

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hillclimber1 said:
Oh, and add dagwood, or whatever he calls himself to your ignore list.

Yes, Dagwood is what I call myself, like you call yourself Hillclimber1.

Let me ask, do you always ignore those you disagree with?
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Bro. Curtis said:
Then why aren't more GOPers on board ?

They tend to support Bush regardless of public opinion - much to their political damage as we saw in November 2006.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Baptist in Richmond said:
One more time: you are wrong, Bro. Curtis.

I don't think I am.

Then please show me where I ever implied a hatred for Limbaugh. Simply stating facts (and what I wrote is true) is not hatred.

Your words speak for themselves, that's kinda the point of this whole thing.
You didn't answer my question though. I have never accused you of hating him, have I?

I don't care if you accuse me of it or not. Go ahead. Like I said, if you did, you would have a valid reason for doing so. Again, kinda the point.



Again, I simply stated fact. Remember - to quote him loosely from one of his ads for LifeLock: actions really do speak louder than words.

You have stated that fact a lot of times around here, just about every time his name is mentioned.


More disconcerting to me is that you are regurgitating one of Rush's favorite things. The proper phrase would be "Democratically." Notice that it is a capital "D" to indicate the party. Rush simply loves to repeat "Democrat party" ad nauseum, as this was a talking point that was picked up by all the other wannabe's on talk radio. Notice that even the POTUS doesn't do this anymore. That is a fun Rush game: count how many times he says "Democrat party" every hour.

He's right. "Democratic" is a form of government. "Democrat" is a term for a political party member. That's the way I see it, and yer gonna have to deal with that. Just a dodge, anyway.

This is true, Rush did raise money for an excellent charity. But Rush certainly got a lot of mileage out of this story, didn't he? He certainly devoted a TON of time promoting this, didn't he? Did you hear when he talked about NBC's Today show wanting to do a story on this whole ordeal, and asked him to come on the air? What about that article in the New York Times? Then he claimed on the air that the media wasn't interested in the story.

The drive by media has completely ignored this, and everybody knows it.

Here is an article about the conversation that started the whole thing:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710190006

And no: contrary to what Rush loves to claim, MediaMatters is not a front group for the Clintons. Rush knows that, but likes to claim it anyway.

I heard the original broadcast, I don't need the M.M. spin. And yer wrong again. Hillary's words betray you.....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dHTydb5js-E

Watch, especially around 2:30 - 3:00. Straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

Even Tucker Carlson blasted media matters for it being a Clinton war machine cog. I can't find a link to that, but I mentioned it here, when it happened.


Seriuosly, of all the loser issues the left could have picked, going after Rush for this was just crazy. He doesn't support the troops ? My guess is at least 85% of everyone who's served LOVES Rush. This was bound to lose from the get-go.

I guess you'll have to stick with the drug addicted-divorcee schtick.

Hope all is well in Big Sky Country.

[Stop current discussion]
There is a very strong possibility that I am going to be relocated to the Midwest, so I have been spending every weekend touring the Commonwealth. I was down at False Cape State Park two weekends in a row.

http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/state_parks/fal.shtml

There is no vehicular access, so it's an easy five-mile hike / bikeride down to the park. A completely-vacant beach awaits you.

Next up is the Virginia Creeper:

http://www.vacreepertrail.com/

Bring your wife and those sweet Cannondales you own, and let's double date.

[Resume current discussion]


Lots of Christian love to the two of you,
BiR

Well that does sound great. We are looking a snow gathering on Lolo Peak, and know it won't be long before we are enjoying the outdoors. The fires filled up the valley with smoke & ash, really ruined any chance of mountain biking this summer. We are getting a little in now, there's a real nice path in the Clark Fork River Canyon, where we can run the dog. We need to get in shape for ski season.
 

carpro

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Dagwood said:
It's easy to attack a hypocrite! A person who condemns drug use while being addicted to oxycotin is a hypocrite, plain and simple!

It is possible to point out their hypocrisy without unrelated personal attacks. Pointing out the fact that Rush was hooked on painkillers hardly relates to his stand on SCHIPS.

But if your hate for him personally is stronger than your hate for his politics, it says more about you as a Christian than it could ever say about Rush Limbaugh.
 

carpro

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Quote:
Your words indicate hatred of the man, whether you say the word, or not.


Baptist in Richmond said:
Very clearly a case of false witness on your part, Bro. Curtis. I am quite surprised by this statement. I expected more from you.
I have never expressed a hatred of Rush Limbaugh, nor have I used words synonymous with "hate" in the description of my feelings toward him. That is a fact that cannot be argued.


Regards,
BiR

Hardly false.

This is a continuing illustration of your normal tactics of implication, innuendo , then denial.

It is you, if anyone, that is guilty of "false witness".

Whether you like his positions or not, Brother Curtis is one of the most honest and forthright posters on this forum. From what I have seen , "false witness" is not in his makeup.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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1.to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. 2.to be unwilling; dislike: I hate to do it. 3.to feel intense dislike, or extreme aversion or hostility. 4.intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility. 5.the object of extreme aversion or hostility.
—Synonyms 1. loathe, execrate; despise. Hate, abhor, detest, abominate imply feeling intense dislike or aversion toward something. Hate, the simple and general word, suggests passionate dislike and a feeling of enmity: to hate autocracy. Abhor expresses a deep-rooted horror and a sense of repugnance or complete rejection: to abhor cruelty; Nature abhors a vacuum. Detest implies intense, even vehement, dislike and antipathy, besides a sense of disdain: to detest a combination of ignorance and arrogance. Abominate expresses a strong feeling of disgust and repulsion toward something thought of as unworthy, unlucky, or the like: to abominate treachery.


It is clear that the word "hate" is appropriate and it is common snese that one does not have to personally use the word for it to be obvious to others that is what is being expressed. There is most certainly extreme hostility toward Rush Limbaugh expressed on this board. What is even more interesting is it is usually expressed in terms of his persoanl life but rarely his politics which is what really is the underlying root of the hostility. I am sure Bill will get a pass from all the hostility with regards to his personal life by these same people.
 
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hillclimber1

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carpro said:
Quote:
Your words indicate hatred of the man, whether you say the word, or not.




Hardly false.

This is a continuing illustration of your normal tactics of implication, innuendo , then denial.

It is you, if anyone, that is guilty of "false witness".

Whether you like his positions or not, Brother Curtis is one of the most honest and forthright posters on this forum. From what I have seen , "false witness" is not in his makeup.

The biggest AMEN. I always think of Brother Curtis as a "brother in the Lord" even in those rare times of disagreement.
 

carpro

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Quote:
Originally Posted by carpro
I would like to think that is true, but I know it isn't.




Ivon Denosovich said:
You know, eh?

Yes, I know. It's been demonstrated here time after time. Only a fool would believe otherwise.

You'd be much closer to the truth if you said no one will admit to hating anyone else.
 

Dagwood

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It is difficult to actually hate someone you do not know. I know it is possible, but I don't think it is as common as we might think.

As far as Rush goes, I don't know him personally, have never even seen him in person. I hear him on the radio. I do hate some of his tactics, and I think he is unfair in describing democrats often. There are times he says things I agree with and if I had the opportunity to meet him, I would treat him with respect and be civil in what I said to him, as I would to anyone here regardless of our differences. After all, God doesn't love along partisan lines, neither should we.
 

Baptist in Richmond

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carpro said:
Quote:
Your words indicate hatred of the man, whether you say the word, or not.
Hardly false.

This is a continuing illustration of your normal tactics of implication, innuendo , then denial.

It is you, if anyone, that is guilty of "false witness".

Whether you like his positions or not, Brother Curtis is one of the most honest and forthright posters on this forum. From what I have seen , "false witness" is not in his makeup.

This is the typical response I expect of you, carpro. Despite the total lack of support for your claim, you make it anyway.

If you can show where I used the word "hate," then by all means show us where it is. It's time to step up to the plate and be a man, carpro. Stop claiming that I mean something and use my words to show what you allege.

I really love your lackluster attempt at misdirection with your comments about my friend Curtis. He and I will joust on the board, yet always manage to be gracious to each other. Were he actually here in the Commonwealth, I would go out of my way to spend time with him. That is quite obvious in my postings in this forum. I engage him because I genuinely like him. But thanks for your unsolicited opinion on the subject.

Regards anyway,
BiR
 
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