Sins a Christian cannot commit...

[charles_creech78]

I've got my own Bible Charles. Please, if you copy and paste Scripture, explain your take on it. I've saw you post a bunch of Scripture and never your take on it. Anybody can cut and paste.

The bible is my take on it . And that is where I stand. ON THE TRUTH.

 

[TCGreek]

I sure hope Charles is not claiming sinless perfection in this life already. Not even Paul ventured such (Phil 3:12-14).

 

[charles_creech78]

by the way It is scripture in response to someone else's post. It is self explanatory, if you can not understand by reading the post I am responding to and reading my post, I am sorry.

 

[Outsider]

Do you believes Christians can molest children, commit adultery, worship an idol God, dishonon their father and mother?

Charles,
In a word, No.
But I think what causes the confusion is the situation. But we must consider the texts and the situation. In other words, when the Bible teaches that we are to honor our parents, it means in Christ. Not so much naturally. Jesus taught that if we follow Him, we must hate our parents.
To keep the scripture in harmony, we must evaluate all aspects. It may not always be a cut or dry answer. I feel this causes the confusion.
If my parents are drug dealers and they want me to go in the family business, I do not feel the Bible teaches I am to obey them in this instance. When Jesus said we must hate our parents, He was saying we must love God more.

Again, I think I understand what you are saying and can support it if thats what you are saying. But we must also consider the other side as well.
If an impure thought comes in a Christians mind, about a woman, according to Christ, it is adultry. If you wish you had a home or a car or a job that someone else has, Christ says that you covet.

Are you saying you have had no impure thoughts since being born again?
I am not trying to be smart here, I am trying to learn what you are truley saying. I will not be judgemental, but it sounds as if this is what you are saying. Please explain.

 

[charles_creech78]

I sure hope Charles is not claiming sinless perfection in this life already. Not even Paul ventured such (Phil 3:12-14).

No TC; just that Christians are not pedophilers, adulterers etc. Yes we sin, but not those kind of sins.

 

[DHK]

I do apply it to my own life, what do you think I been talking about. It is to the Christian man. If someone can not live up to them, it is not his fault, he just does not have God to help him

So you are saying that it is not my fault that I am not as sinless as Christ. The real reason is that I don't have God; I am unsaved. Is that right?

 

[charles_creech78]

Charles,
In a word, No.
But I think what causes the confusion is the situation. But we must consider the texts and the situation. In other words, when the Bible teaches that we are to honor our parents, it means in Christ. Not so much naturally. Jesus taught that if we follow Him, we must hate our parents.
To keep the scripture in harmony, we must evaluate all aspects. It may not always be a cut or dry answer. I feel this causes the confusion.
If my parents are drug dealers and they want me to go in the family business, I do not feel the Bible teaches I am to obey them in this instance. When Jesus said we must hate our parents, He was saying we must love God more.

Again, I think I understand what you are saying and can support it if thats what you are saying. But we must also consider the other side as well.
If an impure thought comes in a Christians mind, about a woman, according to Christ, it is adultry. If you wish you had a home or a car or a job that someone else has, Christ says that you covet.

Are you saying you have had no impure thoughts since being born again?
I am not trying to be smart here, I am trying to learn what you are truley saying. I will not be judgemental, but it sounds as if this is what you are saying. Please explain.

Just to look on a woman is not adultery. you have to lust after them, which means to stand there, undress them with your eyes and begin to lust.

Yes we do have to honor our parents naturally. you do error my friend.

 

[charles_creech78]

So you are saying that it is not my fault that I am not as sinless as Christ. The real reason is that I don't have God; I am unsaved. Is that right?

I judge you not. Jesus said the words I speak, shall judge you in the last day. Your salvation is between you and God. And just because you are DOING IT DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT TO. What so ever you are doing.

 

[charles_creech78]

what are you going to say to God everyone elses was doing it to.

 

[DHK]

I judge you not. Jesus said the words I speak, shall judge you in the last day. Your salvation is between you and God. And just because you are DOING IT DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT TO. What so ever you are doing.

What do you mean by doing it?
What do you think I do, that you don't?

 

[DHK]

what are you going to say to God everyone elses was doing it to.

1. If you don't sin, do you expect to by-pass the judgement seat of Christ, even though the Bible says "We ALL shall give account of ourselves."

2. You never did answer me: If you were to stand before God right now, and He were to ask you: Why should I allow you to enter into my Heaven, what would you answer?

 

[rbell]

No TC; just that Christians are not pedophilers, adulterers etc. Yes we sin, but not those kind of sins.

OK...so what kind of sins? Just pedophilia and adultery? Which sins automatically mean you're not saved?

I'm glad you made the statement you did (the bold part of it)...however, this goes against what you spent the last 10-15 posts saying.

Let's try this......again..........

1. If you died tonight with one unconfesed sin in your life, will you go to hell?
2. Do you believe you can lose your salvation?
3. (yet again) What is a sin (or sins) that you think it is impossible for a Christian to commit? You've made mention of pedophilia and adultery. Are there more? What is your scriptural basis for saying, "There's no way a Christian can commit these sins?"

 

[TCGreek]

No TC; just that Christians are not pedophilers, adulterers etc. Yes we sin, but not those kind of sins.

What about the believer who commits adultery in his heart (Matt 5)?

 

[charles_creech78]

What do you mean by doing it?
What do you think I do, that you don't?

You have said over and over that you continue in sin as a Christian and are capable of committing any sin a sinner commits, on other threads.

 

[charles_creech78]

What about the believer who commits adultery in his heart (Matt 5)?

Show me where it said they where believers?

 

[charles_creech78]

1. If you don't sin, do you expect to by-pass the judgement seat of Christ, even though the Bible says "We ALL shall give account of ourselves."

2. You never did answer me: If you were to stand before God right now, and He were to ask you: Why should I allow you to enter into my Heaven, what would you answer?

Scripture teaches me my name is already enrolled in the Lamb's Book of Life and I will come out of the Grave with a spiritual body. What else could a person possible want?

 

[charles_creech78]

to: Rbel Are you saying that God did not put His laws in your heart?

 

[TCGreek]

Show me where it said they where believers?

Were the disciples of Jesus believers?

 

[Outsider]

Charles,

I wrote this:

If my parents are drug dealers and they want me to go in the family business, I do not feel the Bible teaches I am to obey them in this instance. When Jesus said we must hate our parents, He was saying we must love God more.

You replied this

Yes we do have to honor our parents naturally. you do error my friend.

Is this correct? Is this what you are really saying?

 

[charles_creech78]

Were the disciples of Jesus believers?

Not all of them. Joh 13:10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.

Joh 13:11 For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.