Featured Sola Scriptura: week-day-1 vs Bible Sabbath

What is the much-expected response to these texts?

NEW COVENANT - "THIS is the Covenant I WILL make with the house of ISRAEL and the house of JUDAH ... I will write MY LAW on their mind and on their heart" Heb 8:6-10

'For he is NOT a JEW that is one OUTWARDLY ... but he is a JEW who is one INWARDLY" Rom 2


"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23

"Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND" Mark 2:27

The mere quote of the text is sufficient cause to give rise to strong objection to it. How instructive.

Here again we have an "instructive moment" we should pause here and reflect on what you are saying.

Meanwhile -- I will stick with the Bible on this point.

 

And so there they are "Sabbath after Sabbath" and "EVERY SABBATH" Acts 18:4 preaching to GENTILES and Jews in the Synagogues - with the result that "practically the WHOLE CITY" turns out "the next Sabbath" to hear the Gospel. Acts 13:44

And so having nothing at all like that in the NT "week-day-1 after week-day-1" or "EVERY week-day-1" for anything at all - in either NT or OT - -- by comparison -- you simply reject the "sola scriptura" information that we DO have on that point??

Even your own RCC claims that the Sabbath Commandment (though "bent" in their opinion to point to week-day-1) -- in fact all TEN Commandments apply to Christians to this very day.

 

Some people think it is
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18
"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5.

Is it your opinion that Acts 15 is teaching us to rebel against anything God says in the OT????

Or is it in specific context of ceremonial laws such as circumcision?

"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19 is said by Paul in specific reference to the ceremonial law of circumcision. The MORAL law of God defines sin - Paul is not commanding gentiles to sin.

"SIN IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4.

Even your own RCC admits to this point and admits that the TEN Commandments are not limited to "just Jews". How then is this at all confusing for you?

DHK has the "Baptist Confession of Faith" and "D.L. Moody" making the same case for the continued TEN Commandments applicable to all -- but he can ignore them as he wishes -- and strongly object to texts - merely at the quote of them... but how can you do that opposing both the texts AND your own magisterium??

 

Jesus answered "KEEP the COMMANDMENTS" Matt 19

16 And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” 17 And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

What were the TEN Commandments before the cross?? Dead?? Not according to your own RCC.

What about after the cross?

"The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12.
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19

 

Christ fulfilled the LAW?

True!
- the Law to "love God with all your heart" perfectly fulfilled by Christ
-the Law to "Love your neighbor as yourself" perfectly fulfilled by Christ
-the Law to "Honor your parents" perfectly fulfilled by Christ - yet we have Eph 6:2 reminding us not to break it. Because it is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" in that still-binding UNIT of TEN


"SIN IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4

Rom 6
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?

WE are not under the condemnation of the LAW but as the very chapter that speaks to this point says - that does not mean we are free to sin against it - for "SIN is transgression of the LAW"

You defined "under the law" as -- "obedience" and condemned obedience to what Christ calls "The WORD of GOD" in Mark 7:6-13.

"The house of Israel and the house of Judah" --- "New Covenant".

And in Gen 2:1-3 Sabbath MADE for mankind Mark 2:27 - Ex 20:11 in Eden.
Is 66:23 "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall aLL mankind come before Me to worship"

And are literal Jews part of mankind?



NEW COVENANT - "THIS is the Covenant I WILL make with the house of ISRAEL and the house of JUDAH ... I will write MY LAW on their mind and on their heart" Heb 8:6-10

'For he is NOT a JEW that is one OUTWARDLY ... but he is a JEW who is one INWARDLY" Rom 2

Now wonder gentiles are attending worship service "Sabbath after Sabbath" Acts 13, Acts 17:1-4 and also "EVERY Sabbath" Acts 18:1-6. Isaiah 56:1-8

NEW COVENANT - "THIS is the Covenant I WILL make with the house of ISRAEL and the house of JUDAH ... I will write MY LAW on their mind and on their heart" Heb 8:6-10

'For he is NOT a JEW that is one OUTWARDLY ... but he is a JEW who is one INWARDLY" Rom 2

 

1. There is not one NT or OT text saying "week day 1 is the Holy Day of the LORD" but we DO have that for Sabbath in Is 58:13. (AND we do not have ONE text in the NT or OT that says "week day 1 is the LORD's Day)

2. There is not ONE text in the NT or OT that says that "they met EVERY week-day-1 for gospel teaching" for both Jews AND gentiles but we DO have that for Sabbath in Acts 18:4-6.

3. There is not ONE text in the NT or OT that says "they met week-day-1 after week-day-1 " for anything - but we DO have that in Acts 13 and Acts 17 regarding Sabbath for both Jews AND Gentiles.

4. There is not ONE text in the NT or OT saying "from week day 1 to week day 1 shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" - but we DO have that in Is 66:23 for the Sabbath.

5. There is not ONE text in the NT or OT saying "the Son of man is LORD of week day 1" but we DO have that in the NT for the Sabbath in Mark 2:28.

6. There is not ONE text in the NT saying "there REMAINS therefore a week-day 1 rest for the people of God" but we DO have that for Sabbath in Heb 4.

7. There is not ONE text in NT or OT saying "remember week-day-1 to keep it holy" but we DO have that in Ex 20:8 for the Sabbath.

8. There is NOT ONE text in NT or OT saying it is ok by God if we bend/edit/break/ignore one of the TEN Commandments - but we DO have condemnation for doing such a thing in the NT -- by the Words of Christ Himself! Mark 7:6-13


Mark 7
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Which is a specific reference to "The FIRST commandment WITH a promise" Eph 6:2 - in that still valid - unit of TEN

 

How many reminders will we need that Lev 19 and Deut 6 was spoken to Israel?

"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18
"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5.

How many reminders will we need that in Matt 22 Christ is speaking to JEWS when He references

"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18
"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5.

How many times will we need to be reminded that such "speaking to Jews" is not at all a reason to ignore the Word of God???

 

Is it the "teaching of Jesus" to "reject the teaching of Jesus"?? or is it the teaching of Jesus to view "Moses Said" = "Word of God" = "Commandment of God"??

What is the "teaching of Jesus" in this text.

Mark 7
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Which is a specific reference to "The FIRST commandment WITH a promise" Eph 6:2 - in that still valid - unit of TEN

 

Gen 26:5 "Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.”

Gen 4 "SIN is crouching at your door" --

There was Law at that time. "SIN is transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 - not just in OT - but also in NT.

Moses wrote both Genesis and Exodus and both books were available for his readers so he did not need to repeat all of Exodus 20 inside of every chapter in Genesis.

The LAW of Moses "Moses said" is upheld by Christ in Mark 7:6-13 - and the church magisterium of Christ's day that tried to bend-edit it - were condemned "sola scriptura" by Christ for opposing it.


Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

"Commandment of God" = "Moses said" = "Word of God" according to Christ

That is a case of Christ demonstrating the way that the magisterium is hammered "sola scriptura" in the cases where it's traditions and "doctrines of men" are at odds with scripture.

So also in the LAW of Moses we have
Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself"

Quoted by Christ and upheld for Christians in Matt 22,

But the LAW of Moses also included ceremonial law - and Paul says that in contrast to the "Commandments of God" also in the LAW of Moses - the ceremonial law had ended.

1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

I find it interesting that you are taking a position not only apparently opposed to these texts - but also opposed to your own denomination.

 

Not the moral law - the law that defines sin - which includes the TEN Commandments by Bible standards - AND by your OWN denomination's standards. Why is it you keep coming back to this when it is not just the Bible that has the answer - it is also your own church??

Eph 6:2 "the FIRST commandment with a promise" -- in WHAT unit of LAW?

This is an easy one.

Heb 10 says it is the ceremonial law - of "Sacrifices and offerings" that ends..

Paul contrasts circumcision with the moral law of God in 1 Cor 7:19 saying "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Again I ask -- the moral law - the law that defines sin - which includes the TEN Commandments by Bible standards - AND by your OWN denomination's standards, is what remains.

So why is it you keep coming back to this? Either accept the Bible or your own denomination on this one - and you would still get it right.

 

According to the Gospel - which is the NEW Covenant "I will write My LAWS on their heart and on their mind"

In the gospel - the lost are guilty of sin -- which is "TRANSGRESSION of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 - even in the NT.

In the Gospel once you are born-again the LAW is written on the heart and mind.

IN the Gospel the 'SAINTS KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

In the Gospel account of Mark 7:6-13 JESUS said "The WORD of GOD" = "The Commandment of God" = "Moses said".

In the Gospel account in Luke 16 "IF they do not hear Moses neither will they listen though one rises from the dead"

In the Gospel we SHOW that we Love God and love the people of God this way --
Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:1-3