Speaking in Tongues ... Does YOUR Church Allow it?

[righteousdude2]

:type: I have been talking with Baptist brothers and pastors from around the states [on another forum], and I was totally blown away with the increased number of Southern Baptist churches that, while they do not promote or say tongues is an evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, are now permitting those with the gift of tongues to sit in their fellowship, and to use the gift for pray purposes.

Maybe I am no longer the "Lone Wolf" in this belief that this gift continued to be poured out to those who request it, but, NOT making it a "Deal breaker."

So, in the following poll, where anonymity is a "good thing," please be honest and take the poll, so I can see if this is not just associated with this other group of Baptists, but Baptists in general. And when I say Baptist in general, it is because I think this board is the most definitive one, when it comes to the heartbeat and pulse of the Baptist churches in America and around the world! :flower:

 

[HAMel]

rd2, I went to speaking in tongues a while back when a piece of wood fell and landed on my foot!!!
(I do suppose you knew something like this was coming, no?)

Our church doesn't endorse the practice. No need for it.

...course, I ain't got much book learnin' to begin with and having to walk barefoot (uphill) both ways to get to school got old after a while.

A few years ago there was a Full Gospel, Free Will Baptist Church in New Bern, NC. Don't have a clue as to what they are today.

As I see and understand it all, those folks on the day of Pentecost went to speaking in different (worldly) languages as God gave them ability so as to testify of wonderful works of God for all those assembled. It's kinda open and shut for me.

Anything other than for "that" on "that" day, is a waste of time but that is my opinion. There are missionaries of course who have been blessed with the ability to learn foreign languages with ease.

 

[Revmitchell]

The unbiblical and self serving way it is practiced commonly in the church?


Nope

 

[convicted1]

The tongues spoken in Acts 2 was the Apostles speaking the native languages of those around them, for them to understand the gospel, and not a special angelic language, imo.

To witness to those who don't understand your language, you need an interpreter to translate. That's the gist of what Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 14, imo...

 

[Aaron]

What he said above. If it is to be practiced, then decency and order are requisite. That means there is no muttering to one's self, nor spontaneous utterances.

The elders will give space in the service and say, "Brother so and so has a tongue, and brother so and so will interpret for us."

 

[Scarlett O.]

I don't see it as "allowing" tongues to be spoken. That's the Holy Spirit's job to allow or not allow - not the church.

The church's place would be to see that scriptural instructions are obeyed in the matter of tongues or any other matter.

 

[convicted1]

And if they're Spirit filled, why the need of a class to learn how to speak it??

 

[prophet]

1Co 14:9,19
9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.


19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.


But,...

How many know the correct interpretation of this chapter, yet have never learned a 2nd toungue, for the sake of the Gospel?

14:5
5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied:for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

And how many have no idea what "prophesy" means?

The Spirit will send the gift of toungues to someone (s) in any right church that has the need.

How many have services in Spanish, Korean, etc., and a bilingual(2 toungued) teacher(s) prophesies to them?

 

[preacher4truth]

We speak in a tongue at our church. It's called English. If we get some Hispanic/Latino American folks to come we will possibly need to speak in another tongue. Spanish.

 

[padredurand]

Closest we've come to tongues was when one of our members brought a friend to church. Feller was from the Boston area and after service was over was found hunting around in the auditorium. I asked if I could help him with anything and he replied, "I lost my khakis."

"Your what?"

"My khakis. I lost my khakis."

Not wanting to alarm the feller, I gently informed him that he was wearing a perfectly serviceable pair of khakis.

He replied, "Pastah, I cahn't staht my cah with these khakis."

Apparently he was wearing Dockahs. His khakis were kept on a chain.

 

[Jon-Marc]

The only time in scripture of tongues being used was at Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came upon the 12 disciples, and they spoke in the KNOWN LANGUAGES of that time. They did NOT speak gibberish that no one could understand. Scripture tells of people saying that they could hear about the Saviour IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. The disciples did NOT speak gibberish as people do today. They spoke about the gospel in languages that the people used and understood.

The only so-called "tongues I've ever heard sounded more like gibberish, with each person trying to outdo everyone else. One woman just kept repeating something that sounded like "Ah ditty" over and over. That was when I looked at the door wanting to make an escape. Unfortunately, I was with a friend at her church and would have had to walk home.

The misunderstanding of what it means to speak in "tongues" comes from misinterpreting the scriptures. Also, we are told in scripture that there HAS to be an interpreter, or they are to remain silent and speak only to God in their "tongues". Tongues is NOT speaking gibberish that no one understands.

I do NOT believe that "tongues' are necessary today since we have the scriptures and people who speak the gospel in a language that the people can understand.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

We do not teach that tongues is for this day and age, and it is, indeed, nothing short of heresy to insist that tongues as practices in the Bible are even remotely duplicated today. The stuff that passes for "signs and wonders" today is pure garbage, and not of God. I'm not saying miracles, signs and wonders can't happen. I'm saying that 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of what are claimed to be miracles, signs and wonders are not.

Any SBC church allowing this foolishness needs correction.

 

[convicted1]

Helen Keller never learned to speak in tongues...:tongue3:

 

[Judith]

People who seek after tongues are seeking a sign and the Lord was very clear about seeking those a sign.
Mat 13:39
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

People who put their trust in a gift as a sign that they are saved are in serious trouble. No gift was ever given for personal use and that includes tongues. The Corinthian church was puffed up over the gift and was misusing it and received a strong rebuke and same thing is happening today. The scripture tells us why tongues was given (1Cor 14:21,22) and it was NEVER a personal prayer language. People who are doing that are being deceived by the deceiver.

At no time are we to pray mindless prayers and the claimed tongues of today are mindless. No one who prays today in a tngue knows what they are saying. We are told to edify the church not ourselves and the misuse of the gift of tongues edifies self. Those who are caught up in this movement are in sin and are being seriously deceived.

 

[salzer mtn]

I've been to a CoG maybe twice since the Lord saved me when I was younger. Once was to help my fellow worker win a bible for the most guest there. Every time I've ever saw a person, which was always a woman speak in tongues they would also get down and roll in the floor. Maybe that's why they are called holy rollers.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

:type: I have been talking with Baptist brothers and pastors from around the states [on another forum], and I was totally blown away with the increased number of Southern Baptist churches that, while they do not promote or say tongues is an evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, are now permitting those with the gift of tongues to sit in their fellowship, and to use the gift for pray purposes.

Maybe I am no longer the "Lone Wolf" in this belief that this gift continued to be poured out to those who request it, but, NOT making it a "Deal breaker."

So, in the following poll, where anonymity is a "good thing," please be honest and take the poll, so I can see if this is not just associated with this other group of Baptists, but Baptists in general. And when I say Baptist in general, it is because I think this board is the most definitive one, when it comes to the heartbeat and pulse of the Baptist churches in America and around the world! :flower:

Depends on what you mean by "allow". Most likely, we'd discreetly pull the person aside and talk to them.

 

[righteousdude2]

That must be where the term....

Depends on what you mean by "allow". Most likely, we'd discreetly pull the person aside and talk to them.

...."the hUshers" came from? :laugh:

 

[ktn4eg]

The only time in scripture of tongues being used was at Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came upon the 12 disciples, and they spoke in the KNOWN LANGUAGES of that time. They did NOT speak gibberish that no one could understand. Scripture tells of people saying that they could hear about the Saviour IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. The disciples did NOT speak gibberish as people do today. They spoke about the gospel in languages that the people used and understood.

The only so-called "tongues I've ever heard sounded more like gibberish, with each person trying to outdo everyone else. One woman just kept repeating something that sounded like "Ah ditty" over and over. That was when I looked at the door wanting to make an escape. Unfortunately, I was with a friend at her church and would have had to walk home.

The misunderstanding of what it means to speak in "tongues" comes from misinterpreting the scriptures. Also, we are told in scripture that there HAS to be an interpreter, or they are to remain silent and speak only to God in their "tongues". Tongues is NOT speaking gibberish that no one understands.

I do NOT believe that "tongues' are necessary today since we have the scriptures and people who speak the gospel in a language that the people can understand.

It is both my personal opinion, and the "official position" of my church ( www.lighthouseministries.org ) , basically what JM has posted in his remarks.

Last month our pastor began a series of messages focusing on many very important aspects of the local church that we can draw from various Bible passages (primarily NT ones).

One of his first messages was why God used the Jewish holiday of Pentecost to anoint His disciples with a special filling and power.

The main reason why God did what He did at that time was because there were so many people from just about every part of the middle east there in Jerusalem--many of which had either experienced the events of Jesus's last days on Earth or, at the least, knew of these events.

In His sovereign wisdom, God used this great gathering of people in or around Jerusalem at that point in time to be the occasion for them to hear of what the Gospel of Jesus Christ (i.e., His death, burial & resurrection) will do for people.

Since there were so many different people from so many different areas of the Middle East visiting the environs of Jerusalem at that time, they would have had to have a way to hear this Gospel message in a language/dialect with which they were already familiar. Thus God enabled "the 120" to speak in those languages.

This was NOT mere gibberish, but rather a temporary outpouring by the HS to accomplish a specific task at a specific occasion.

 

[prophet]

::

It is both my personal opinion, and the "official position" of my church ( www.lighthouseministries.org ) , basically what JM has posted in his remarks.

Last month our pastor began a series of messages focusing on many very important aspects of the local church that we can draw from various Bible passages (primarily NT ones).

One of his first messages was why God used the Jewish holiday of Pentecost to anoint His disciples with a special filling and power.

The main reason why God did what He did at that time was because there were so many people from just about every part of the middle east there in Jerusalem--many of which had either experienced the events of Jesus's last days on Earth or, at the least, knew of these events.

In His sovereign wisdom, God used this great gathering of people in or around Jerusalem at that point in time to be the occasion for them to hear of what the Gospel of Jesus Christ (i.e., His death, burial & resurrection) will do for people.

Since there were so many different people from so many different areas of the Middle East visiting the environs of Jerusalem at that time, they would have had to have a way to hear this Gospel message in a language/dialect with which they were already familiar. Thus God enabled "the 120" to speak in those languages.

This was NOT mere gibberish, but rather a temporary outpouring by the HS to accomplish a specific task at a specific occasion.

Act 2:5
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Hmmmm, seems like more than "just about every part of the Middle East".

Act 2:9-11
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Didn't know Libya, or Rome, were in the Middle East.
Egypt is a stretch, but it borders the M.E.
Crete is in Europe.

 

[Ed B]

Closest we've come to tongues was when one of our members brought a friend to church. Feller was from the Boston area and after service was over was found hunting around in the auditorium. I asked if I could help him with anything and he replied, "I lost my khakis."

"Your what?"

"My khakis. I lost my khakis."

Not wanting to alarm the feller, I gently informed him that he was wearing a perfectly serviceable pair of khakis.

He replied, "Pastah, I cahn't staht my cah with these khakis."

Apparently he was wearing Dockahs. His khakis were kept on a chain.

B+

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