The Adoption

[The Archangel]

They were considered Glorified in the past ? what before they existed .. Eph 2
1¶And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

11¶Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
So they were considered Glorified before they existed? then God considered them dead , children of wrath , without Christ , Aliens , strangers form the promise , having no hope and without God . ??????

Again, you can't argue the details of Romans from Ephesians.... Ephesians might be another topic for another time. Stick to Romans.

The Archangel

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What do you mean by "us?" Do you have a clone on this site?

He doesn’t represent me, but he probably thinks he has some following!

 

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