The Army's hard sell

I just talked to a young man at church who is a private on leave after finishing army boot camp.
He's extremely proud to have the opportunity to serve his country.

The reason I mention him is that, in spite of lagging enlistments, the Marines have not lowered their standards. This young man tried to join the Marines and was refused because of a public intoxication charge on his record.

God bless him and all the young men and women who still believe it's an honor and worth the price to serve their country.

 

It seems that many times a man's desire to wage war increases when the likelihood of him being drafted decreases.

 

How would you explain the war in Iraq then since there is no draft? All you have is empty partisan rhetoric.

Joseph Botwinick

 

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People are generally good and want to serve their duty. Many have enlisted over the years. They aren't doing that now though! Those numbers are way down. The point is, the war cannot continue without a draft. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually,

I believe the latest reports show that they are meeting and exceeding recruiting goals in almost all branches of the military right now.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Also,

How do you explain all those soldiers who are volunteering to go back to Iraq after recovering from injuries when, legally, they are under no obligation to do so whatsoever?

Joseph Botwinick

 

People are generally good and want to serve their duty. Many have enlisted over the years. They aren't doing that now though! Those numbers are way down. The point is, the war cannot continue without a draft. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually,

I believe the latest reports show that they are meeting and exceeding recruiting goals in almost all branches of the military right now.

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]That would be the re-inlistment numbers from Fort Bragg, the place from where our President gave his speech last week. Overall numbers are still down.

 

How do you explain those re-enlistment numbers? How do you explain all those recovering injured troops volunteering to go back to Iraq? I thought the desire to wage war only increased if someone isn't in danger of going to war? You have nothing but bitter empty rhetoric to offer.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Ha! Most of these threads are empty rhetoric.

 

Right on LadyEagle, hollow heads lack substance.

 

They are blind and deaf like you are.

 

That is not true, especially if we can get you liberals to stop undermining the efforts of our troops in Iraq.

 

"Very, very few!" I don't think so! Statistics go up and down like interest rates but the long term is what counts most. Your "sky is falling" liberal viewpoint is far from the truth. Here's what the Secretary of Defense said in a interview with David Kelso, KOKC-AM/KRXO-FM, Oklahoma City, Okla,Tuesday, June 21, 2005:

RAND did a study on the effects of deployment on reenlistment in the US military a couple of years ago and concluded:

I think this reveals something about the nature of people who serve in our military. It seems to me that they, overall, are proud to serve our nation in war - reenlisting - despite the risk of sacrifice of limb or life. I acknowledge that the data in the RAND report is based on deployments - hostile and non-hostile - prior to the current war in Iraq so the results could be somewhat different now if the same study were conducted now. However, I'll bet that so long as the country supports the cause the troops will be willing to serve and the results will be the same.

The best thing Americans can do to support our troops and keep reenlistments and enlistments up is to support the cause for which they're fighting. Americans will rise to the cause because they have a strong sense of duty. If you take that - the reason - away, however, as people like Michael Moore want to do, there becomes no justification to fight. It then becomes a "punishment" or "condemnation" one must endure for an ungrateful nation. We need to recognize the enemies among us as well as those we fight on the battlefield.

Patrick

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0705/p01s03-usmi.html

 

Well here's a chance for some of you desk jockeys to make some money.

The enlistment bonus is a monetary incentive offered to qualified individuals who enlist in the active Army. Bonus eligibility is based on the applicant's selected Military Occupational Specialty (MOS), civilian education or technical skills, length of enlistment and any previous military service. Enlistment bonuses range from $1,000 to $20,000 for active Army enlistments of two or more years.



Qualified applicants who enlist for three or more years in any MOS are eligible for at least $5,000.
Qualified applicants who enlist for four or more years in the active Army may receive combined bonuses up to $20,000.
Qualified applicants who enlist for three or more years in a high-priority MOS may receive combined bonuses up to $20,000.
Qualified applicants who enlist for three or more years in a priority MOS may receive combined bonuses up to $10,000.
Qualified applicants who enlist for two years may receive combined bonuses up to $6,000.

 

I absolutely agree here. Most of these threads are full of bitter empty rhetoric.

Joseph Botwinick