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For Calvinists ?

 

Where did it contain the gospel (death, burial, resurrection of Christ to save sinners)?
If it did, fine.

 

Nope, If the Lord chooses to save ANY lost sinner, that is highest grace!

 

For anyone who believes the Bible

 

He can't "choose".

 

I doubt your salvation based upon your insistence for works.


Joy unspeakable full of glory

 

They obviously do not indicate the Holy Spirit "creates" the trust in us. Rather the Holy Spirit reveals truth such as inspiring God's word, and we choose to put our trust in that truth or not.

 

1) revealed does not mean created
2) created is not found in any of those verses.
3) being born anew to enter the kingdom is non-germane

The verses do not indicate the Holy Spirit "creates" the trust in us. Rather the Holy Spirit reveals truth such as inspiring God's word, and we choose to put our trust in that truth or not.

 

You just have to love you Calvinists, atpollard, although your definitions of words, such as faith, is different from how anyone else in the whole wide world defines it. You define it as the gift of God. This throws the whole Bible to a 45 degree angle.You get the great doctrine of grace wrong also. You either forget or do not know that this epistle was written to reveal a mystery that was only here made known in writing. What is the mystery? Well, the nutshell verse that states what the mystery is can be found in Eph 3:6 and in this context. The gentiles were added to the body of Christ which had already been established though the Jewish believers for some time before the gentiles were made partakers with them in the spiritual privileges of this body. Since there are two different people groups that make up this body, albeit their inclusion into it began at different times, and there are two different divine principles at work here in it's formation, the principle of promise for the Jews and the principle of grace for the gentiles, this will at once answer the question of Paul's usage of the pronouns in these chapters and verses. Just as an exercise I challenge you to begin at, say, chapter 2:1 and go through the whole chapter 2 and note when Paul uses pronouns that includes himself as a Jewish Christian and how and when he uses pronouns that distinguish gentile Christians. Look at words like "together" and notice in verse 8 as well as other verses that he does not say, "by grace are we saved," even though we know he was saved, but he said "by grace are ye saved," meaning ye gentiles are saved by grace.

Paul goes on to tell us why our gentile salvation is by grace through faith in verses 10-12 and it is because of the 5 things that gentiles were without in time past. They did not have any covenant promises with God that secured salvation for them. Therefore, his making us equal with the Jewish believers as children of God in Christ is a matter of his grace.

You Calvinists say God must infuse faith into a sinner after he regenerates him because he does not have the capacity of intelligence, reason, and will and therefore cannot make a choice on his own to believe. However, Eph 1:13 defines faith as trust and puts salvation as being after the gentiles heard the gospel of Christ. Faith in that verse is a result of intelligent reasoning and a willing act of trust. This is far removed from your great error concerning the nature of man, God, and faith.

I know if you will read these verses carefully and believe the meaning of words in their traditional and commonly accepted definitions you will agree that you have not seen the full picture.

 

Jesus has bought the rights to all mankind, all flesh jn17:2
He gives life to those the Father has given Him ,no more,no less.

 

you do not understand 1 cor15:1-4. twice it says according to the scriptures. plural.
1cor15 gives the historic facts of the cross,and ascension...
The gospel if found all throughout the scriptures.Gal.3:8 is not the gospel according to your posting.It is in scripture, both here and in luke 1:68-73.

 

No, no, atpollard. The mere fact that you asked those questions reveals that you have no idea how to understand God's unfolding drama of redemption. There is no body of Christ anywhere in the 4000 years of OT history and revelation. Rahab or Ruth nor any other proselyte were placed into the body of Christ. Neither were Abraham, Moses, or David, or John the Baptist, in the body of Christ because the body of Christ was not being formed before his coming and his crucifixion and resurrection and ascension. That is not what the OT is about.

Quoting from what seems to be one of your favorite chapters from the scriptures, Ep 2, I offer this wisdom about gentiles in time past. This time past concerning gentiles is from Acts 10 when gentiles were historically included in the church of Jesus Christ and going backward to Abraham in Ge 12. Here is 5 things about gentiles during that time;

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were

1) without Christ, being
2) aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and
3) strangers from the covenants of promise,
4} having no hope, and
5) without God in the world:

That is a record from scriptures concerning gentiles before NOW. Following is what is happening to gentiles now that could not have happened in time past;

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Note: "both" is speaking of Jews and gentiles. The OT does not teach one singular salvation for gentiles as it does to Israel. This is the mystery of the church of Jesus Christ.


However, this letter is written by the special appointed apostle to the gentiles to explain the good news of God that he has included gentiles in the formation of the church, the body of Christ, that he is forming during this time with the small number of Israelites that have believed during the time his nation Israel is in blindness and rebellion against him. This church he is forming is likened to Christ, the husband and the church as the bride of Christ and he says all that is said of the marriage union in chapter 5 of this epistle is to applied to this theology of Jesus Christ and his church. The mystery part of this theology is that gentiles are included as equal to the Jews in this body. All are born again children of God and are joint heirs with Christ of an heavenly inheritance.

This is no way cancels the covenants that God has made to his people Israel and the promise of blessing to future generations of gentiles through them as stated in the Abrahamic covenant. All God has said to them will come to pass on the earth just like he promised. However, the church of Jesus Christ has a completion and promises of rapture all it's own that are separate from Jews and gentiles who are not in the church, that is "in Christ" by faith.

The greatest type of the events of this age is Adam and Eve. God put his son Adam to a deep sleep and opened up his side and created Eve from his body. That is how the church is formed today. From the wounded side of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are of his body and we are his bride and, according to Col 1 we will soon be presented to him at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

Calvinists are kept in the dark and can never understand the truths God desires to teach. The only hope for Calvinists is to escape and forsake it and to bend the knee to our Lord Jesus Christ. He will receive anyone who repents and comes to him in faith. Faith is a human principle. It is an exercise of the will.

 

After this you'll need to get baptized, attend church faithfully, "tithe" a minimum of 10% of your income, and do a whole lot of other things that are in the "fine print"...
Like living a holy lifestyle, remaining separate from the world and its ways, continuing in the faith, etc.

But, once one realizes that they are not under the Law but under grace, AND that one cannot do the things they would do for the Lord ( Romans 7:14-25 ) except by the power of the Spirit in them, it becomes apparent how free they actually are...
Free to approach His throne boldly, because they have the grace of God bestowed upon them through no effort of their own ( which we could never attain anyway, only Christ could and did. )

The Lord does not work according to "formulas"...
and He does not grant people favor based on their actions, but rather the other way around;
The actions of His people are reflective of the work that He has begun ( and will continue ) in them ( Ephesians 2:10, Philippians 2:13, 1 Peter 1:5, etc ).

To me, this is plainly evident in places like 1 Corinthians 1:18-31, Matthew 11:25 and Matthew 13 / Mark 4 / Luke 8 that develop the Lord revealing His truth to those He wishes, and hiding His truth from those He wishes.
God's favor is something that He bestows on someone, and they then receive what they need to walk uprightly from Him.


The "Calvinist" Gospel is, in it's core form, everything found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-6, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, the Psalms and prophets, etc..., and is expanded upon in the books of Romans, Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, Thessalonians and anywhere else that doctrine is found.


May the Lord be pleased to reveal this, in the details, to everyone reading this.