Ran the Man
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Jesus didn't have a place to lay his head, and this cat has $14,000,000.
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The Cure for Calvinism
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Not surprised. Not happy with that but no surprise. Part of the problem is our "Christian" culture of idolizing celebrities. It is already a red flag when someone consents to have his name on a Bible.
So he has a salary of 160K, not the 500K that you claimed. If he's sold 14 million worth of books, so what?
Of course, I don't know if I shoud believe a website that says that Calgary, Alberta is in the United States...
Rockson
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I think there needs to be both but first the chief mandate is to preach the gospel.
The issues of Calvinism need to be addressed however lest new Christians get indoctrinated to what I consider to be a false way of thinking about God that can effect them the rest of their lives. With a new believer I don't think one should teach them to be aware of the falseness of Calvinism too quick....there's so many other subjects they need to be strengthen in and taught but if there are signs it's necessary on a case by case basis then there should be an emphasis put upon it.
Millions understand it. You are another one who shows no understanding of it but yet is ready to accuse it. It is one thing to believe something else. It is another to just make random statements that are only strawmen.
Good points.
The "anti" people can be just as problematic as well. We are not called to combat Calvinism, Arminianism, Freemasonry, drums in worship, or even the world EXCEPT as it pertains to our scope of responsibility (to our church as we build up one another).
It is not up to me to try to change another congregation's theology. I it is not up to us to try to change another Christian's theological position. It is up to us to guard the things that are in our responsibility, but even here we need to be mindful that we are responsible for the things we teach.
I have seen comments @Ran the Man offered attacking Calvinism, but what about what he believes Calvinism teaches? Calvinism is not a very hard theology to comprehend (although I agree that it is often fought against on dishonest ground). That said, what part of his words against Calvinism are strawman statements?
I ask because you have made the same accusation against me in the past, yet you have thus far proved inept at providing an example where I've misrepresented or misunderstood the theology. When made against me the charge was proven false. But I missed @Ran the Man 's misunderstanding.
I could not care less what he makes. He sure dresses a lot better than the creep in your avatar.
In all due respect, that argument is worn out. In some cases, it may be true. Fir the most part,the accusation boils down to one has to either be a Calvinist or he is ignorant.
If I recall, your view is Classic Arminianism (I take it Reformation Arminianism).
One of my favorite authors from that standpoint is Robert Picirilli. If anyone wants to understand the value that could be present in these types of forums (if the cultic mentality were gone), read Grace, Faith, Free-will.
In that book Picirilly contended to present all sidedes in an honest way to facilitate understanding among Christians. He relied on Calvinistic friends to evaluate his understanding of and arguments against the view.
Here we get ad hominem because, I believe, @Iconoclast does not seem to grasp a Christian could dismiss Calvinism except through ignorance (an extremely foolish argument).
We have seen an amount of doctrinal interest in our culture, but this neveral materializd in an "awakening". I suggest this is because of a kack of biblical literacy as some have preferred theological literacy over biblical literacy. At the same I think (hope) the next generation will favor Scripture.
Which arguments?
How about, Calvinism caused witch burnings. Or Calvinism caused native American genocide.
Might as well tackle the low hanging fruit first.
Those do not speak to a misunderstanding of Calvinism as a doctrine.
Ran the Man
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Ace Frehley is not a creep. He's quite a nice guy. Much nicer than John MacArthur.
Mikey
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You (apparently) are a Baptist too. Why are you taking pot-shots at Baptists if you are one too? Youre not really a Baptist are you?
Ran the Man
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If you can't critique your own denomination, you're in a cult.
Ran the Man
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Also, i don't do tribes. I'm not into group think, protect my tribe at all costs.
Reformed1689
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Baptist isn't a denomination. Which type of Baptist?
Hardly complex. I'm not even convinced you have actually studied it.
Newsflash, SBC was grounded in Calvinism at the beginning. They are returning to their roots.
No John MacArthur is not SBC.
Exactly
Not a KISS fan. My wife is and we saw their farewell tour over a decade ago (Ted Nugent opened). I'm considering going this year if my wife will catch a Dead & Co. concert.....or we may spare the other and just go it alone.
Reformed1689
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You aren't critiquing anything, just spewing vitriol.
Ran the Man
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no, I'm critiquing. It;s only vitriol to you because you don't like it.
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