Featured The Eternal Purpose of Christ PT 3

DHK, let me shown you what I think the biblical position is. Again, I am 100% sure you will disagree with it, but I want to show you what I believe.


This goes way deeper than the ears and eyes of mankind, as this problem of receiving the gospel of Christ is within the hearts of sinners. For the heart is The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?[Jer. 17:9] It is with the heart that For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified.[Rom. 10:10a] Then we can also find A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.[Lu. 6:45] And also You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.[Matt. 12:34] Sinners have wicked, sin-filled, sin-hardened, rebellious hearts. They oppose God, and can not love Him in the manner the bible says to love Him as Jesus stated He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”[Lu. 10:27] Sinners can not love God with all their heart when it is sin-hardened. This is where the heart transplantation takes place such as I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh,[Ez. 11:19 and furthermore I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; l remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.[Ez. 36:26] Then Christ said something that is very interesting when He stated Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.[Matt. 7:17-20] John the Baptist had stated something very similar when he stated The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.[Matt. 3:10] Evil trees can only produce bad/corrupt/evil fruit. That is a picture of sinners in their unregenerate state, mon ami. They have evil hearts and can not produce good fruits. If you study this out, our fruits are our works that we do. Our works are the evidence of who we are working for. If we are producing evil fruit then we are sinners, in an unregenerate state. If we are producing good fruit, then there is evidence of Christ working in our lives.

In this wicked, sin-hardened, sin-filled, rebellious heart, they can not believe. Why? As Jesus told the parable of the seed sower in Matthew 13 only one ground received the seed that produced fruit. The second soil had nothing for the seed to take root upon and it withered away and bore no fruit. Then let us back up to what the Psalmist wrote when he wrote Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, but whose delight is in the law of the Lord, and who meditates on his law day and night. That person is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither—whatever they do prospers.[Psa. 1:1-3] Trees symbolize mankind in several different places and even was symbolic of Christ as was the Tree of Life.

Sinners can not do anything pleasing unto the Lord. They can love their family, friends, classmates, pets, but that is a carnal, fleshly love. It takes being born of God to be born of that divine love, which is the only love that can truly love God. As John the Revelator wrote Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.[1 Jn 4:7] As John wrote everyone that loves has been born(already done and which causes) of love loves God and knows God. I will close with Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.[1 Jn. 5:1] As he plainly wrote, those who believe is born(already an accomplished work wrought upon their heart) of God.

Once regeneration has taken place, the new heart and Spirit already implanted, faith and repentance is exercised. That is why those who are saved, the Roman Centurion and the Samaritan leper, had to have those 'ears to hear with' to truly realize that Christ was/is the Messiah.

 

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I knew you would. But I digress.

Well then I need to rip Ezekiel out of my bible. Listen, all scripture from Genesis 1:1-------->Revelation 22:21 is for all Christians. Any and all Christians are Jews inwardly, even those who are natural descendants of Abraham. Your dis-jointing of God's holy writ is rather mind-numbing. God has one promise with one people, the church, the bride of Christ, the believers of all time, the sheep, the elect. All of those describe one people, His people. There is one covenant God has with His children and not one for Israel and one for the believing Gentiles. The sooner you realize this, the clearer it will appear to you.

A new heart and a new Spirit. You bet your sweet bippy it is speaking of the new birth.

False prophets, false teachers are unregenerate so the parable apply applies to them.

What makes their 'their fruit' their false doctrine? They are lost, they are unregenerate. They are false prophets espousing a false doctrine and are 'wolves sent to scatter the flock', being workers of satan. They are unregenerate. They are no different than those who died never being saved or never knowing Christ as Lord and Saviour.

Taking it out of context? Please. I am not the one who says 'when God is angry with the wicked every day' that He is not really angry, just annoyed. Then 'well, that passage applies only to Israel and does not apply to us.' Now that is taking scripture out of context, mon ami.

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YES!!!

Yes.

It is a heart issue. The heart is bent towards sin and self and not righteousness and God. That is why God first has to change the heart, ergo Ezekiel 11:19 & 36:26, which applies to all believers of all time. None have been saved any other way.

So the pictures I showed you in scripture where God wrought life from death did not convince you that God first works on the dead to bring them to life before they could do anything? Look, Lazarus, the widow's son in Luke 7, Eutycus in Acts 20, the widow's son in 1 Kings 17 all show how life is first pumped into a man before he can do anything. These are pictures of regeneration.

Lazarus was physically dead and in a tomb and could do nothing to change that state. All his family could stand outside and cry 'come out' and he was unable to hear them, being physically dead. That is how sinners are dead spiritually. Their soulish man is dead in the same manner. The physically dead are dead because they are devoid of their soul. Sinners are dead because they are devoid of the Spirit of God, which is the soul's only Life Source. Spiritual death is more than just being separated from God, but being devoid of His Spirit. That is why those who truly believe are born of God. Believing shows that God has quickened them.

Yes it does.

Faith and repentance happen at the new birth and this brings forth salvation at the same time. All of this being wrought by God.

 

You just do not get it DHK. Yes 'believe on the Lord and you will be saved'. Do you think I believe any different? But how do people believe? With the heart man believes and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. It all goes back to the heart condition I told you about. Salvation starts with the heart mon ami. The unregenerate have wicked, sin-filled, sin-corrupted, hearts that can not believe. That is why the heart transplantation must occur, that which you dismiss does not apply to us.

Until God gives the unregenerate a new heart, they can not and will not believe. Until you see this, you will be stuck in the mire.

 

I am trying to chop away and get through to him. It seems like he is a petrified tree, though.

 

Everything to you centers around Israel it appears. These were the ones who cried 'crucify Him, crucify Him'. They were the ones who rejected the Stone, the only solid Foundation there is. They are rejecting Jesus even to this day. Yes, mon ami, many Jews are becoming believers, but the devout Jews is still waiting for their Messiah to come the first time. But sinners' hearts are sin-hardened, sin-filled, sin-corrupted, wicked to the core.

These Jews were also more desirous of having a murderer turned loose into their company than Christ. When Pilate said “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility,” they then yelled “His blood is on us and on our children!” They were the ones Those who passed by hurled insults at him, shaking their heads and saying, “You who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! Come down from the cross, if you are the Son of God!” In the same way the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked him. “He saved others,” they said, “but he can’t save himself! He’s the king of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” In the same way the rebels who were crucified with him also heaped insults on him.[Matt. 27:39-44]

These Jews were told by Jesus earlier “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit."[Matt. 21:43]

 

Faith in dogs, cats, peoples, chairs, &c is carnal. Saving faith is God-given, mon ami.

 

Time to bring out the big guns. A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.[Rom. 2:28,29] And then there is In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, And also Further, my brothers and sisters, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you. Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh. For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh—[Phpp. 3:1-3]


All of this is showing how God works upon the hearts of sinners, mon ami. Sinners are dead in transgressions and sins, and can not truly hear the gospel. It takes God to give a heart transplantation, cutting the dead flesh off via circumcision of the heart. Salvation is an inside outside work that God starts and finishes.