Just saw a poll by ABC news that stated 67% of american think Dems out of touch, and they also would still have elected trump today!
The Dems are out of touch. Trump still isn't a very good President.
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Just saw a poll by ABC news that stated 67% of american think Dems out of touch, and they also would still have elected trump today!
If you control the House or the Senate, you're going to face some blame for a shutdown. You don't have to control all of Congress plus the White House---just enough to stop a funding bill from passing. That's why they didn't escape blame before.
But ITL's point is that they DEFINITELY won't escape blame now.
Again, it's funny.
If memory serves me correctly, republicans were blamed for a shutdown when they didn't control any of the 3 branches.
The Department of Education would not be able to distribute financial aid. That might not be too big of a deal because of the time of year, but it's an inconvenience.
There are other examples, I'm sure, but my point is mostly related to the end game. In the end, we're going to fund the government, and these employees are almost certainly going to get back pay. If we are going to pay for the government services, we might as well actually get them.
I've endured a few government furloughs and it is no vacation when you have a mortgage and bills to pay. Yeah you get it back (sometimes) later but it can hurt when you are going through it.
Was a filibuster involved? I don't recall the specific instance to which you are referring, so I can't comment on it.
Ah, that's a new standard.
So it appears democrats can and will shut down the government by using the filibuster. Yet republicans will still get the blame. Handy.
I apologize for sounding insensitive. I wasn't intending to minimize the hardship during the shutdown.
I was just wanting to emphasize the importance of keeping employees on the job in the first place. That way, we don't have the hardship at all!
I've endured a few government furloughs and it is no vacation when you have a mortgage and bills to pay. Yeah you get it back (sometimes) later but it can hurt when you are going through it.
I apologize for sounding insensitive. I wasn't intending to minimize the hardship during the shutdown.
I was just wanting to emphasize the importance of keeping employees on the job in the first place. That way, we don't have the hardship at all!
Stefan is right - Not only is there harship on the govt employee - but citizens as well - when a person needs assistance (and I an not talking about welfare) there is no help available.
Did I mention that maybe welfare should be furloughed?
Had not heard that - but if it did happen, you know those recipents would be at the Senators and Rep office protesting until they renew the "benefits"I believe that assistance programs may in some cases be subject to the shutdown. It depends on the specifics of the appropriations already made for the individual programs, as I understand it. Food Stamps (SNAP) may be subject to a shutdown.
The truth is that the former president was given MUCH more support early on than Trump has been by all of the Dems!Ummmm...source?
I think you're confusing support for some border security measures with support for a Trump-style wall. I support the former but not the latter, and that's not hypocritical.
If the Democrats use a filibuster, they'd have their share of the blame, too.
The president is willing to wotk with them, the Dems respomse is always 'go #@%@ youself!"The truth is that the former president was given MUCH more support early on than Trump has been by all of the Dems!
The truth is that the former president was given MUCH more support early on than Trump has been by all of the Dems!
Totally untrue. Before Obama took the oath of office the GOP met, I believe it was at the Greenbrier in WV, and agreed to oppose anything and everything that Obama proposed. This they did for 8 years.
They gave him his cabinent and SC without much fuss!Totally untrue. Before Obama took the oath of office the GOP met, I believe it was at the Greenbrier in WV, and agreed to oppose anything and everything that Obama proposed. This they did for 8 years.
They gave him his cabinent and SC without much fuss!
NO president will get the SC pick though on their last year, as that is traditional! As the Congress always waits on the incoming President president for that!Not Merrick Garland...