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Gerhard Ebersoehn

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GE,

re: Your post #197.

And in other immortal words of John McEnroe - "You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!".
 
 

GE:

Maybe thus immortal for Americans; first time I ever heard those words.
How much weight do you think they can have in matters of Scripture?

Are you shying away Strats from the issue, Did Jesus rise on the Sabbath and therefore Christians are privileged to celebrate their day of Redemption like the Hebrew USED to do, but no longer can because they do not believe the Redemption by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead?

It would be VERY SAD
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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Here is the best and most obvious PROOF I am not talking nonsense, but truth:
See the CHANGES made in 'modern translation' to each and every Scripture with regard to the Sabbath in the New Testament,

for example:

Mt28:1 from "In / On the Sabbath", to, "after the sabbath";
Mk16:9 from "Now risen, Jesus appeared", to, "When Jesus rose early that First Day";
Mk15:42 from "And now when the even was come", to, "Late noon", "As evening approached" etc.

There is not a single Text not thus corrupted --- and for what reason? Gal4:10, the "return back to your dismal former no-gods superstitiously worshipped: days, months, seasons, years" the chief the hermaphrodite "Queen of days" and "Day of the Lord Sun".
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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Gentleman,

If your position of John 20:1 is correct then John had NOTHIN to say about any other women EVER coming to the tomb except Magdalene! Why would John omit all references to ALL of the women but Mary when every other gospel includes them??? John would be guilty of failing to give his readers the whole story if that were true. John's account of Mary in John 20:1 is the same account given by all other gospel writers of Mary with the women as Mary is also highlight by the other gospel accounts.

The women were frightened and did not tell anyone as they went back of fear UNTIL Jesus met them along the way. Ask yourself why would Jesus meet them along the way and reaffirm what they had already been told by angel IF that was sufficient and nothing warranted that special additional reaffirmation? Just use common sense!


I will tell you why you can't see the obvious, is because of your unscriptural Saturday resurrection theory. The first three hundred years of Christianity disagree with your interpretation. Those who were disciples of the Apostles disagree with your interpretation. The consistent use of "the Lord's day" until 300 A.D. was with qualifiies as "eighth day" or "first day of the week" or "Sunday."

Ignatius says about A.D. 70 – “Let every one who loves Christ, keep holy the Lord’s Day, the queen of days, the resurrection day, the highest of all days.”

Ireneus, Bishop of Lyons, disciple of Polycarp says, “On the Lord’s Day, every one of us Christians keep the Sabbath.”

Barnabas in about A.D. 120 says, “We keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead”

Matthew 28:1 can be genuinely interpreted differently than what you are suggesting. Mark 16:9 separates the time of the resurrection of Christ betweem 3am to 6am from the return trip of Mary with disciples (Jn. 20:11-18).


Refer, http://www.biblestudents.co.za/books/Book 5, Second Century.pdf
 

Dr. Walter

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I don't rely upon SOME modern translation but upon the Greek text itself and the KJV is the more natural translation.

Here is the best and most obvious PROOF I am not talking nonsense, but truth:
See the CHANGES made in 'modern translation' to each and every Scripture with regard to the Sabbath in the New Testament,

for example:

Mt28:1 from "In / On the Sabbath", to, "after the sabbath";
Mk16:9 from "Now risen, Jesus appeared", to, "When Jesus rose early that First Day";
Mk15:42 from "And now when the even was come", to, "Late noon", "As evening approached" etc.

There is not a single Text not thus corrupted --- and for what reason? Gal4:10, the "return back to your dismal former no-gods superstitiously worshipped: days, months, seasons, years" the chief the hermaphrodite "Queen of days" and "Day of the Lord Sun".
 

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A. First Set

Mt. 28:1 ¶ In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn (growing light – sunrise) toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mk. 16:1 ¶ And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Mk 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Jn. 20:1 ¶ The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre,
Lk. 24:1 ¶ Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.


B. Second Set

MT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mt. 24:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mt. 24:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.


C. Third Set

Mk. 16:3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
John 20:1 ….and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Mk. 16:4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
Lk.24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
Mk 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
Lk 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
Lk. 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
D. Fourth Set
Lk. 24:5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
Mt. 24:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.


E. Fourth Set

Lk. 24:6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
Lk. 24:7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
Lk. 24:8 And they remembered his words,
Mk 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
Mk 16:7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
Mt. 24:7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.


G. Fifth Set

Mk 16:8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre;
Mt. 28:8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.
Mk. 16:8 …for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
Mt. 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
Mt. 28:10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
Mt. 28:11 ¶ Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.
Lk. 24:9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
Lk. 24:10 It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
Mk. 16: 10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
Jn. 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.
Lk. 24:11 And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
Lk. 24:12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.


F. Sixth Set


Jn. 20:3 Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.
Jn. 20:4 So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
Jn. 20:5 And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.
Jn.20:6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
Jn. 20:7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
Jn. 20:8 Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.
Jn. 20:9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
Jn.20:10 Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.


H. Seventh Set

Mk. 16:9 ¶ Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
Jn. 20:11 ¶ But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,
Jn. 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
Jn. 20:13 And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
Jn. 20:14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.
Jn. 20:15 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
Jn. 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
Jn. 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Jn. 20: 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
 

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John's account of Mary in John 20:1 is the same account given by all other gospel writers of Mary with the women as Mary is also highlight by the other gospel accounts.

GE:
If what you say were true— that “all other gospel writers” ‘give’ and “also highlight” “the same account” as “John's account of Mary in John 20:1”,
1) Why does Luke in 24:1, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her not at all?

2) Why does Luke in 24:10, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her just like he mentions the “others with THEM” (‘the three’ from Galilee)?

3) Why does Luke in 24:22-23, not do like John does in 1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but only mentions “certain women”; and ‘Mary Magdalene’, not at all?

4) Why does Mark in 16:1, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her just like he mentions “Mary the mother of James, and Salome” (‘the three’ from Galilee)?

5) Why does Mark in 16:2-8, not do like John does in 1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but merely mentions “they came”; and ‘Mary Magdalene’, not at all?

5) Why does Matthew in 28:1, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her just like he mentions “the other Mary”— only the two, ‘Marys’?

6) Why does Matthew in 28:5-10, not do like John does in 20:1
and 11 mention Mary Magdalene only; but only speaks of “the women” and of ‘Mary Magdalene’, not at all?

Because every Gospel has at least two stories in connection with the Resurrection, visits and Appearances.

John has two:
Jn20:3-10 Simon and Peter;
and 20:11-17 the first Appearance to Mary only.

Luke has three:
Lk24:1-10 discovery of the empty tomb; repeated in 24:22-23;
and 24:13-32 to Emmaus; in Jerusalem 24:33ff.

Mark has two:
Mk16:2-8 ascertaining visit;
and 16:9 first Appearance, and “Mary had had stood after” Jn20:11ff— the only ‘parallel accounts’.

Matthew has two— one of the Resurrection, 28:5a, 1-4;
and one of the second Appearance, 5a-11a.

Jn20:1-2 discovery of the opened tomb,
and Mk16:1 purchase of spices,
are not stories about the Resurrection, visits at the tomb, or, Appearances.

Therefore it is not a matter of “Why would John omit all references to ALL of the women but Mary”, or that “every other gospel includes them”— These are two, false, premises. And therefore, that John or another Gospel “would be guilty of failing to give his readers the whole story” is another false premises. No Gospel would ‘fail’; each fulfills its OWN chosen purpose. And therefore – once again – is it a false premises and conclusion that “John's account of Mary in John 20:1 is the same account given by all other gospel writers of Mary with the women”.
 
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I am therefore afraid my ‘common sense’ cannot grasp the following, “The women were frightened and did not tell anyone as they went back of fear UNTIL Jesus met them along the way. Ask yourself why would Jesus meet them along the way and reaffirm what they had already been told by angel IF that was sufficient and nothing warranted that special additional reaffirmation? Just use common sense!

But I do understand the challenge “why” what for Dr. Walter is “the obvious”, cannot be ‘seen’ is an “unscriptural Saturday resurrection theory”. I think it is because Dr Walter is looking PAST the historic truth of the Resurrection and Appearances to an already apostate Christianity, while he should be looking BACK to a true Christianity that already existed within the ranks of the Old Testament prophets, who - Ignatius said -, “Sabbath-keeping”, had been “Christians” before Christ! Yes; the totality of the Old Testament ultimately became Christianity through Jesus Christ, but most tragically soon after Him, returned to its old pagan way of Sunday-worship.

Nevertheless, “Those who were disciples of the Apostles”, definitely did not ‘disagree’ with the truth of Jesus’ Sabbath’s-Resurrection; and even the first hundred and fifty or so of the “first three hundred years of Christianity” do not seem to ‘disagree with’ it.

The use of "the Lord's day" until 300 A.D. was’ not that ‘consistent’ though; there’s a great change in ‘the use’ and meaning “of "the Lord's day"” to be seen from the end of the second of those ‘300’ years, and anyone who denies such change speaks from ignorance.

Also is it an historic untruth ‘the use of "the Lord's day"’ until at least about 150 AD ‘qualifies’, ‘the Lord's day’ “as "eighth day" or "first day of the week" or "Sunday"”.

It – for example – was not Ignatius, but some pseudo-Ignatius, who “says about A.D. 70 [Sic.] – “Let every one who loves Christ, keep holy the Lord’s Day, the queen of days, the resurrection day, the highest of all days.” And the fact it was a pseudo-Ignatius DESPITE, it remains an open question his reference is to Sunday! Nevertheless, the Sundaydarians may have it their way, with pleasure, as far as I am concerned, seeing this interpolation perhaps dates from hundreds of years after the real Ignatius.

And so we could go on. Who says, “Ireneus, Bishop of Lyons, disciple of Polycarp says, “On the Lord’s Day, every one of us Christians keep the Sabbath”” HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUNDAY?

And “Barnabas in about A.D. 120 says, “We keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead””? In fact, where in the whole of Barnabas, does Barnabas NOT associate the “Seventh Day”, “Sabbath”, with or as “the eighth day”? Not in as much as one word or phrase or thought or hint!

Dr Walter:
Mark 16:9 separates the time of the resurrection of Christ between 3am to 6am from the return trip of Mary with disciples (Jn. 20:11-18)”…. “…from the return trip …”? Mary’s “return trip” was “between 3am to 6am” yet AFTER the Resurrection yet “the time of the resurrection of Christ” is “between 3am to 6am”….? When and where are we going to conclude, ‘stop’, and decide Jesus rose “between 3am to 6am from the return trip of Mary with disciples” (and never have read something like it?)

Peace!
GE.
 
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A. First Set

Mt. 28:1 ¶ In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn (growing light – sunrise) toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see .................
.....................to my God, and your God.
Jn. 20: 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.



GE:
The above, re-arranged chronologically, historically and logically understandable,

1)
Mt. 28:1 In the end / FULLNESS of the Sabbath’S, Sabbath’S MID-AFTERNOON (‘opse de sabbatohn tehi epiphoskousehi),
as it began to dawn TOWARDS / before / unto (‘EIS mian (hehmeran)
the First Day (Accusative, not ‘on’; not Dative or Genitive)
OF the week (not ‘on’ Genitive or Dative),
WENT Mary Magdalene and the other Mary TO SEE the sepulchre.

2)
Mk. 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him….
=
….Jn. 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene when it was YET EARLY darkness (‘proh-i skotias eti ousehs’), unto the sepulchre, sees the STONE (not inside grave) … runs”— discovery of OPENED tomb Saturday evening. Sets all subsequent visits in motion.

3)
Lk. 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning (“deepest morning” ‘orthrou batheohs’), they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. (FIRST realized visit; purpose to anoint body frustrated by finding tomb was EMPTY.)


4)
Mk 16:2 And very (‘lian’) early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun (“dawn before sun-up” ‘anateilantos tou hehliou’), re-inspecting (‘ANA-blepsasai’) taking notice that (‘theohrousin hoti’)” (ASCERTAINING, SECOND visit.)


Second Set
…. Remove
MT 28:2 “And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it
Mt. 24:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mt. 24:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men”;

it belongs in 2),
after ‘Mt. 28:1’.


Third Set
…. Remove
Mk. 16:3 “And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?”
it belongs in 4),
simultaneous with “they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun (“dawn before sun-up” ‘anateilantos tou hehliou’), re-inspecting (‘ANA-blepsasai’) taking notice that (‘theohrousin hoti’)” (ASCERTAINING, SECOND visit).

…. Remove
John 20:1 “….and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre”,
it belongs in 4),
after “Mk. 16:1 And when the sabbath was past”, and simultaneous with “Jn. 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene when it was YET EARLY darkness”.

…. Remove
“Mk. 16:4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great”,

it belongs in 4),
simultaneous with “they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun (“dawn before sun-up” ‘anateilantos tou hehliou’), re-inspecting (‘ANA-blepsasai’) taking notice that (‘theohrousin hoti’)” (ASCERTAINING, SECOND visit).

…. Remove
“Lk.24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre”,

it belongs in 3),
simultaneous with “Lk. 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning (“deepest morning” ‘orthrou batheohs’), they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them, and they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre” JUST LIKE MARY MUST HAVE INFORMED THEM SHE HAD SEEN, “Jn. 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene when it was YET EARLY darkness (‘proh-i skotias eti ousehs’), unto the sepulchre, sees the STONE (not inside grave) … runs”— discovery of OPENED tomb Saturday evening.”


…. Remove
“Mk 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted”,

it belongs in 4),
after “Mk 16:2 And very (‘lian’) early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun (“dawn before sun-up” ‘anateilantos tou hehliou’), re-inspecting (‘ANA-blepsasai’) taking notice that (‘theohrousin hoti’)”

“Lk 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus”,
it belongs in 3),
after “Lk. 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning (“deepest morning” ‘orthrou batheohs’), they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them”, and the above, “Lk.24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre”.

…. and continue in 3) ….
“Lk. 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments”.

…. and continue in 3) ….
“Lk. 24:5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?”


D. Fourth Set”….
…. Remove
“Mt. 24:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified”,
it belongs with 1),
as rhetorical introductory remark to BOTH the anecdote of the Resurrection in verses 1-4, “In the end / FULLNESS of the Sabbath’S, Sabbath’S MID-AFTERNOON…..”, and of what the angel continued to inform the women on, Mt28:5ff, that He was risen— upon which information the women gladly went to tell the Good News and as they were going, were met by Jesus.

Now it seems a little slip-up occurred—
E. Fourth Set
of which senseless arrangements nothing in any case could come because it cuts up and divides and destroys what belong together, “a little bit here, a little bit there” just like the drunkards went about with God’s Word in the days of Isaiah.

WHAT GOD PUT TOGETHER LET NO MAN PART, like Dr Walter is going on and on to do…. until he completed SEVEN “SETS” OF INCOMPREHENSIBLE CONFUSION.
 

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GE,
 
Since you like to do a lot of writing, how about intermeshing (without paraphrasing) the actual verses of Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-8, Luke 20:1-12 and John 20:1-18 together - one after the other - in the order that you think they occurred?
 

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Please note post 206 --- I made a few corrections to it, as follows--

If what you say were true— that “all other gospel writers” ‘give’ and “also highlight” “the same account” as “John's account of Mary in John 20:1”,
1) Why does Luke in 24:1, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her not at all?

2) Why does Luke in 24:10, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her just like he mentions the “others with THEM” (‘the three’ from Galilee)?

3) Why does Luke in 24:22-23, not do like John does in 1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but only mentions “certain women”; and ‘Mary Magdalene’, not at all?

4) Why does Mark in 16:1, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her just like he mentions “Mary the mother of James, and Salome” (‘the three’ from Galilee)?

5) Why does Mark in 16:2-8, not do like John does in 1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but merely mentions “they came”; and ‘Mary Magdalene’ specifically, not at all?

5) Why does Matthew in 28:1, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11
and mention Mary Magdalene only; but mentions her just like he mentions “the other Mary”— only the two, ‘Marys’?

6) Why does Matthew in 28:5-10, not do like John does in 20:1 and 11, and mention Mary Magdalene only; but only speaks of “the women”, and of ‘Mary Magdalene’ howsoever, not at all?

Because every Gospel has two stories in connection with visits at the tomb, and the Appearances.

John has two:
Jn20:3-10 Simon and Peter;
and 20:11-17 the first Appearance to Mary only.

Luke has two:
Lk24:1-10 discovery of the empty tomb; repeated in 24:22-23;
and 24:13-32 to Emmaus and in Jerusalem 24:33ff.

Mark has two:
Mk16:2-8 ascertaining visit;
and 16:9 first Appearance, and “Mary had had stood after” Jn20:11ff— the only ‘parallel accounts’.

Matthew has two— one of the Resurrection, 28:5a, 1-4;
and one of the second Appearance, 5a-11a.

Jn20:1-2, discovery of the opened tomb,
and Mk16:1, purchase of spices,
are not stories about the Resurrection, visits at the tomb, or, Appearances.
 

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GE, Since you like to do a lot of writing, how about intermeshing (without paraphrasing) the actual verses of Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-8, Luke 20:1-12 and John 20:1-18 together - one after the other - in the order that you think they occurred?


GE:
That’s the problem, people ‘intermesh’ the anecdotes --- like you, here have done --- whereas they should distinguish them. And that’s the problem too, that people do not read attentively; otherwise you would not have asked me this. How many times have I exactly given --- without paraphrasing --- the order that events and stories occurred to?

You have ‘intermeshed’ “Matthew 28:1-10” which contains
1) story number one, the Resurrection, in verses 1-4;
2) followed by Matthew’s rhetorical introductory remark for the angel’s ‘witness’ in 5a, “….explained the angel, and said to the women….”,
3) followed by the angel’s explanation of the Resurrection in verses 5-7,
4) followed by story number two, of the second Appearance, in verses 8-10.

Being TWO stories, and not one, it follows they could not happen simultaneously.

Four pericopes ‘intermeshed’ into one, “Matthew 28:1-10”! No wonder people get confused.

Therefore:
Event number one, verses 1 to 4 --- the Resurrection --- happened “Sabbath’s late— Sabbath’s mid-afternoon— Sabbath’s as it began to dawn towards the First day of the week”. ‘opse de sabbatohn’; ‘sabbatohn tehi epiphohskousehi’; ‘sabbatohn eis mian (hehmeran) sabbatohn’. LITERALLY, EXACTLY, NOT ‘intermeshed! “The angel explained!”

Humanity involved through The Son of Man raised from the dead by the Glory of the Father; no mortal present or able to behold!

So, different events to follow:

You have ‘intermeshed’ “Mark 16:1-8” which contains TWO events:
Event number one, in verse 1, “They bought sweet spices”.

WHEN?
(Humanity blissfully unaware of the Resurrection,) “when the Sabbath had gone through / was past / over.” ‘diagenomenou tou sabbatou’— Saturday evening after sunset. No buying on the Sabbath! Salome had no spices “prepared” from Friday afternoon; quickly buy and make ready…..

WHY?
So that” as soon as they could “when they would go, they might anoint Him”. As soon as they could because of the Roman guard Mt27:62— for whom day and watch would end only MIDNIGHT.

Event number two, in MARK
verse 2-3, “They got to the sepulchre, and said among themselves, Who after all would have moved the stone out of the door for us it is so BIG!?

WHEN was THIS? For BEFORE THIS ---LUKE
24:1 tells us--- “They arrived at the sepulchre BRINGING THEIR SPICES WHICH THEY HAD PREPARED and entering, found the stone rolled away” (as Mary Magdalene according to JOHN
20:1-2— after she had discovered that the tomb was opened, must have told the other women too). “But they found not his BODY” Lk24:23!

Luke recorded the first time the women entered into the tomb and discovered it was EMPTY, and indisputably therefore recorded the women’s FIRST and EARLIEST visit that night, just after midnight, “earliest morning” ‘orthrou batheohs’.

Therefore the women’s visit at the tomb TO MAKE SURE in Mark 16:2-8, naturally occurred AFTER the women’s visit at the tomb in Luke (24:1, 22-23 when they discovered that the tomb was EMPTY). And Mary’s first glimpse of the moved away door-stone from the OPENED tomb according to John 20:1, naturally MUST have occurred before any of the two, completed visits according to Lk24 and Mk16:2-8, and John says exactly that: “Mary Magdalene when EARLY DARKNESS STILL on the First Day of the week, sees the STONE, moved away”.

Mary, after she and the other Mary and Salome had gone to buy spices (Mk16:1), undertook her ‘solo trip’ to spy out the situation (with the guards) at the tomb. “Mary Magdalene nears”, and as she nears, “Mary Magdalene sees”; and as she sees— it was “EARLY darkness still”— not too dark “YET” to see— she could see, “The STONE!” “The stone was rolled AWAY from the sepulchre!” And without hesitation Mary Magdalene “RUNS”! “She runs” back and cries out: “Peter!” “John!! They have taken away our Lord! And we DON’T know where to!” Waaa, Mary’s chest ripped, and Mary’s crying that night never stopped! Until the Lord “appeared to Mary Magdalene out of whom He had driven seven devils” Mk16:9 that night as it seems, she never stopped crying! “Mary Magdalene had had stood after at the grave WEEPING” Jn20:11 all the while until “early morning”!
 
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Meanwhile, after Mary had told them of the stone, Peter and John had gone to see the grave for themselves (It was the first time they would see the grave.), Mary must have informed the other women also. This is not recorded; one must conclude it, because just “after midnight morning on the First Day of the week” Saturday night, “they arrived at the grave, and observing the stone was away from the sepluchre (just as Mary had told them). They ENTERED” Lk24:1, “BUT THE BODY THEY FOUND NOT” verses 22-23!




Therefore the women’s visit in Mark 16:2-8 was a SECOND and ascertaining visit, by then, “very early dawn before sunrise.” “And AGAIN having a close look, they observed THAT the stone was indeed flung upwards away from the tomb, its size despite.” “But”, as, this time, “they entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right hand side, and they were exceedingly astonished” as before (Luke), they were encountered by two angels as they exited the tomb. Nothing is exactly the same; everything suggests ANOTHER visit.

So, there are TWO stories in every Scripture-reference you have made, Strats; you have “intermeshed” properly and improperly. Don’t expect of me to do the same. However, in terms of actual time-indications the chronological sequence of the separate and different visits at the tomb, LITERALLY is as follows:

1) “Sabbath’s”:
Mt:1-4— the INTENDED BUT THWARTED ‘visit’—
But Sabbath’s-time late (‘opse de sabbatohn’) mid-afternoon as it began to dawn towards the First Day of the week Mary Magdalene and the other Maty SET OUT TO SEE the grave. BUT SUDDENLY there was a great earthquake ….”.


DON’T ‘intermesh’ verses 5-10! 1-4 and 5-10 are two histories joined by the words, “….the angel explaining to the women, said, But don’t you be afraid, for I know you are looking for Jesus ….
Verse 5a is the narrating angel’s rhetorical introductory remark for EVERYTHING contained in Matthew but in no other Gospel account. If 27:62 is taken for the beginning of the angel’s “informing to the women”, 28:1 must translate, The authorities of the world “Sealed the tomb and even set a watch, but despite (‘de’), in the end of the Sabbath Day….”.

2) “After the Sabbath had gone through…. Mk16:1— nowhere near the tomb— the THREE women “bought spices”.

3) “Early darkness still …. Jn20:1— “Mary Magdalene sees the stone rolled away.” Discovered the tomb was OPENED.

4) “Earliest morning …. Lk24:1,22-23— just after midnight— the women discovered the tomb was EMPTY.

5) “Very early dawn before sunrise …. Mk16:2-8— Second visit after which all the women but Mary must have “fled from the tomb and they did not tell anybody anything they were so afraid” (but Mary Magdalene must have “had stood after at the door of the grave weeping” Jn20:11).

6) “Early on the First Day …. Mk16:9— “Mary Magdalene had had stood after at the door of the grave weeping …. saw Jesus …. thought He was the gardener” Jn20:11, “HE AS THE RISEN APPEARED to Mary Magdalene FIRST.” Mk16:9.

7) “Explained the andgel to the women and told them…. (Mt28:5a) Then suddenly there was a great earthquake and the angel of the Lord descended from heaven …. And for fear of him the keepers like dead men were hit down by the brightness like lightning of his countenance …. But don’t YOU, be afraid, because I know— you, are looking for Jesus!” Not like those scoundrels who thought they could prevent Him from rising again! “He isn’t here, but He IS risen as He said (He would); come (convince yourself) and see the place where the Lord lay” if you like. But the women didn’t; now they understood, because so the Lord has led them to come to faith “And immediately they departed from the grave with God-fearing fear of great joy, and did run to bring his disciples word. And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them!

That was Sunday morning AFTER Jesus “early”— about sunrise when a gardener should start his day— “appeared to Mary Magdalene first”. Can it be clearer? But they hate the light of God’s Word, and love the Sun’s Day more.
 
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GE,

re: "That’s the problem, people ‘intermesh’ the anecdotes —"

And why would that be a problem if all four gospel accounts are accurate?
 
 
re: "And that’s the problem too, that people do not read attentively..."

I’ve tried, I really have. But your South African English is extremely difficult to follow - at least for me. And apparently American English is for you, also.
 

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Ignatius says about A.D. 70 – “Let every one who loves Christ, keep holy the Lord’s Day, the queen of days, the resurrection day, the highest of all days.”

Ireneus, Bishop of Lyons, disciple of Polycarp says, “On the Lord’s Day, every one of us Christians keep the Sabbath.”

Barnabas in about A.D. 120 says, “We keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead

Justin Martyr in about A.D. 140 says, “But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because Jesus Christ, our Savior, on the same day rose again from the dead.”

Theopolis in A.D. 167 says, “Both custom and reason challenge from us that we should honor the Lord’s Day, seeing it was that day, our Lord Jesus Christ, completed the resurrection from the dead.”

Dionysius in A.D. 170 says, “We passed this holy Lord’s Day in which we read your letter, from the constant reading of which we shall be able to draw admonition.”

Dynidions in A.D. 170 says, “We Celebrate only the Lord’s Day.”

Bardesanes in A.D. 180 says, “On one day, the first day of the week, we assemble ourselves together.”

Clement in A.D. 192 says that a Christian “According to the commandment of the gospel, observes the Lord’s Day, thereby glorifying the resurrection.”

Clement of Alexandria says in A.D. 194, “He, in fulfillment of the precept, according to the gospel, keeps the Lord’s Day, glorifying the Lord’s resurrection in himself.”

Tertullian in A.D. 200 says, “We solemnize the day after Saturday in contradiction to those who call this day their Sabbath.”

Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage in A.D. 250 says, “The eighth day, that is, the first day after the Sabbath, is the Lord’s Day.

The Apostolical Constitution says in A.D. 250, “On the day of our Lord’s resurrection, which is the Lord’s day, meet more diligently.”

Anatolius in about A.D. 270 says, “The solemn festival of the resurrection of the Lord can only be celebrated on the Lord’s Day.”

Anatolius Bishop of Laodicea in Asia Minor in A.D. 270 says, “Our regard for the Lord’s resurrection which took place on the Lord’s Day will lead us to celebrate it.”

Victorinus in A.D. 300 says, “On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously that on the Lord’s Day we may go forth to our brad with giving of thanks, lest we should appear to observe any other Sabbath with the Jewish, which Sabbath He in His body abolished.”

Peter, Bishop of Alexanderia in A.D. 306 says, “But the Lord’s Day we celebrate as a day of joy because on it he rose again.”

John the Beloved in A.D. 96 says, “I was in the spirit on the Lord’s Day.” – Rev. 1:10

Luke in about A.D. 60 says, “And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them.” – Acts 20:7

Mosheim, in Volume one, page 45 says, “In the first century all Christians were unanimous in the setting apart the first day of the week on which the Savior arose from the dead, for the solemn celebration of public worship; and it was observed universally as appears from the united testimony of the most credible writers.”

All of the above quotations occur prior to the edict of Constantine concerning Sunday worship. Careful studies of the quotations above show that the “Lord’s Day” is used interchangeable with the “first day of the week” and “Sunday” and “eighth day” and “day of resurrection.”

I have personally verified every one of the quotes in the Ante-Nicene Fathers on three separate occassions and they are accurate.
 

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Psalm 118:20-24 – From Type to Prophetic Command

Psa. 118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.
21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
23 This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.
24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.


This whole portion is a Messianic prophecy as verse 22 is quoted six times in the New Testament and each time it is applied to Christ.

Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mark 12:10-11 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes?

Luke 20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?

Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Ephesians 2:20-22 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

1 Peter 2:4-8 ¶ To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

However, what is significant about this Old Testament quotation is its special application to the resurrection of Jesus Christ in the New Testament (Acts 4:10-11). The builders “refused” Him by condemning and crucifying Him. The Father’s response to their rejection of Him was to raise Him from the grave or reverse their work of rejection. Luke spells this contrast between the builders and the Father in Acts 4:10

Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.”

The contrast between the builders and The Father is clearly seen in the phrase, “whom ye crucified”, VERSUS “whom God raised from the dead” In
order that the reader have no doubt that Peter is referring to such a contrast he immediately quotes Psalm 118:22

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner”. – Acts 4:11

However, the Psalmist continues to speak about this resurrection work of the Father by saying:

This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvelous in our eyes. This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.” – Psa. 118:23-24

The first phrase explains how the refused stone became the “head of the corner” – THIS IS THE LORD’S DOING. They killed Him but God raised Him.

The second phrase identifies the day of resurrection as a day to be SET APART to commemorate the resurrection as a work of God. The Hebrew term translated “made” can mean “set apart to be observed.” There is no question that this is the meaning because of the words that directly follow – “We WILL rejoice and be glad in IT” These words describe the kind of commemoration intended “in it.”

The day of resurrection is to be observed with rejoicing and gladness because without it the Apostle Paul says there would be no hope of salvation (I Cor. 15:10-16).

The seventh day Sabbath commemorates a work of God that has fallen into sin and corruption and is now groaning under sin and awaiting redemption. The first day of the week as typified in the feasts of the New Covenant and prophetically commanded in Psalms 118:20-24 commemorates a greater work of God that ushers in a New Creation – the resurrection of Christ.
 

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GE,

re: "That’s the problem, people ‘intermesh’ the anecdotes —"

And why would that be a problem if all four gospel accounts are accurate?
 
 
re: "And that’s the problem too, that people do not read attentively..."

I’ve tried, I really have. But your South African English is extremely difficult to follow - at least for me. And apparently American English is for you, also.


GE:
Strats, concentrate on this, the English here cannot be a problem:

1) “Sabbath’s”:
Mt:1-4— the INTENDED BUT THWARTED ‘visit’—
But Sabbath’s-time late (‘opse de sabbatohn’) mid-afternoon as it began to dawn towards the First Day of the week Mary Magdalene and the other Maty SET OUT TO SEE the grave. BUT SUDDENLY there was a great earthquake ….”.

Verses 5-10! 1-4 and 5-10 are two histories joined by the words, “….the angel explaining to the women, said, But don’t you be afraid, for I know you are looking for Jesus ….
Verse 5a is the narrating angel’s rhetorical introductory remark for EVERYTHING contained in Matthew but in no other Gospel account. If 27:62 is taken for the beginning of the angel’s “informing to the women”, 28:1 must translate, The authorities of the world “Sealed the tomb and even set a watch, but despite (‘de’), in the end of the Sabbath Day….”.

2) “After the Sabbath had gone through…. Mk16:1— nowhere near the tomb— the THREE women “bought spices”.

3) “Early darkness still …. Jn20:1— “Mary Magdalene sees the stone rolled away.” Discovered the tomb was OPENED.

4) “Earliest morning …. Lk24:1,22-23— just after midnight— the women discovered the tomb was EMPTY.

5) “Very early dawn before sunrise …. Mk16:2-8— Second visit after which all the women but Mary must have “fled from the tomb and they did not tell anybody anything they were so afraid” (but Mary Magdalene must have “had stood after at the door of the grave weeping” Jn20:11).

6) “Early on the First Day …. Mk16:9— “Mary Magdalene had had stood after at the door of the grave weeping …. saw Jesus …. thought He was the gardener” Jn20:11, “HE AS THE RISEN APPEARED to Mary Magdalene FIRST.” Mk16:9.

7) “Explained the andgel to the women and told them…. (Mt28:5a) Then suddenly there was a great earthquake and the angel of the Lord descended from heaven …. And for fear of him the keepers like dead men were hit down by the brightness like lightning of his countenance …. But don’t YOU, be afraid, because I know— you, are looking for Jesus!” Not like those scoundrels who thought they could prevent Him from rising again! “He isn’t here, but He IS risen as He said (He would); come (convince yourself) and see the place where the Lord lay” if you like. But the women didn’t; now they understood, because so the Lord has led them to come to faith “And immediately they departed from the grave with God-fearing fear of great joy, and did run to bring his disciples word. And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them!

That was Sunday morning AFTER Jesus “early”— about sunrise when a gardener should start his day— “appeared to Mary Magdalene first”. Can it be clearer? But they hate the light of God’s Word, and love the Sun’s Day more.

THE HONESTY OF ANY MAN CAN BE TESTED: "TO THE LAW AND TO THE PROPHETS"; THE INTEGRITY OF EVERY CHRISTIAN CONFESSION TO: Luke 24:25-26.
 
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Ignatius says about A.D. 70 – “Let every one who loves Christ, keep holy the Lord’s Day, the queen of days, the resurrection day, the highest of all days.”

Ireneus, Bishop of Lyons, disciple of Polycarp says, “On the Lord’s Day, ..................................................................................... Careful studies of the quotations above show that the “Lord’s Day” is used interchangeable with the “first day of the week” and “Sunday” and “eighth day” and “day of resurrection.”

I have personally verified every one of the quotes in the Ante-Nicene Fathers on three separate occassions and they are accurate.



GE:
I agree on some aspects and even on some facts that you mention here, but unfortunately you seem not to have read my commentary which I already in this discussion have given on a few of your statements. To mention the first one and its date only, “about A.D. 70”? (Just at a glance.) And you maintain you have personally verified every one of the quotes in the Ante-Nicene Fathers on three separate occasions and they are accurate? ‘Accurate’ by 100 years? Are you speaking of "Careful studies of the quotations "?

And does it not for you matter that you do not look to the Word in the Old Testament, but rather to heretics of centuries after Christ?
 
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Dr. Walter

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GE:
I agree on some aspects and even on some facts that you mention here, but unfortunately you seem not to have read my commentary which I already in this discussion have given on a few of your statements. To mention the first one and its date only, “about A.D. 70”? (Just at a glance.) And you maintain you have personally verified every one of the quotes in the Ante-Nicene Fathers on three separate occasions and they are accurate? ‘Accurate’ by 100 years? Are you speaking of "Careful studies of the quotations "?

And does it not for you matter that you do not look to the Word in the Old Testament, but rather to heretics of centuries after Christ?

Accurate as far as the wording of the statements and accurate within the general time frame given as scholars vary their dates from scholar to scholar. All occurred before Constantines Sunday law.
 

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Psa. 118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.
21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation..................................................typified in the feasts of the New Covenant and prophetically commanded in Psalms 118:20-24 commemorates a greater work of God that ushers in a New Creation – the resurrection of Christ.


GE:
I think we are seeing another Dr Nik Lee in one Dr Walter. Dr Nik Lee even speaks Afrikaans. He is highly thought of in South Africa, especially among the Afrikaans Reformed Calvinists. Be that as it may; just mentioning.

Re:
The seventh day Sabbath commemorates a work of God that has fallen into sin and corruption and is now groaning under sin and awaiting redemption. The first day of the week as typified in the feasts of the New Covenant and prophetically commanded in Psalms 118:20-24 commemorates a greater work of God that ushers in a New Creation – the resurrection of Christ.

Why did you not make this your introduction to your contemplations on Psalm 118, Dr Walter? I suppose your answer would be something like, ‘Because it would be putting the cart before horse.’ And I would reply, So it’s harnessing the horse behind the cart. Instead of pushing the cart in the wrong direction, the horse pulls it in the wrong direction.

However.....

Re:
The seventh day Sabbath commemorates a work of God that has fallen into sin and corruption and is now groaning under sin and awaiting redemption……

GE:
Is that really what you concluded from Psalm 118, Dr Walter?

Behold all ye saints,
The seventh day Sabbath commemorates a work of God that has fallen into sin and corruption”….. SIN TRIUMPHANT! “.....God that has fallen into sin and corruption”!! “.....a work of God that has fallen into sin and corruption”!!! “The seventh day Sabbath commemorates a work of God that has fallen into sin and corruption.....” and you complain MY English is difficult? What about the English of Dr Walter? Or is it his theology; or perhaps his confession?

But here’s the most upsetting about this --- especially for the Seventh-day Adventists --- I even agree with Dr Walter on certain aspects! Now it cannot get madder….. the man must get to an asylum – me, not Dr Walter. It’s the SDAs I hear saying…. about yours faithfully, GE.

But I’m going to bed now….. DV I’ll see you tomorrow again. I’ve got as much as you to think about on my pillow.
 
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Here's the sequence I determined for the Resurrection accounts:
http://www.erictb.info/resurrection.html

The key is to realize that groups such as "the women" and "the eleven/twelve" are not always necessarily the same exact people.

Here is the summary:

0 Women besides 2 Mary's and Salome prepare spices before the Sabbath
1 2 Mary's and Salome buy spices
2 at end of Sabbath/beginning of first day, the two Mary's set out to come to the tomb.
3 Mary Magdalene gets there first, when it is yet dark
4 Earthquake, and angle rolls away stone
5 Mary Magdalene sees stone rolled away and tells Peter, who comes with John and sees empty grave cloths, and both leave.
6 Other Mary and Salome arrive after the sun has risen, and find stone rolled away and single angel, still there.
7 he tells them Jesus has risen
8 But they run away afraid, and don't tell anyone
9 Mary returns from having gotten Peter, and weeps. By now, a second angel has joined the first, and then the risen Jesus makes his first appearance.
10 She goes and tells the other women, who don't believe; except, apparently, for...
11 the other Mary and Salome, who NOW "depart with fear and joy and ran to bring His disciples word", but Jesus meets them, and gives them the instruction that the disciples should meet them in Galilee.
12 They tell them, but they do not believe
13 Now, we pick up with Luke's account of the rest of the women, who did not believe Mary Magdalene. They now go to the tomb themselves, after all the others, but still "very early"; bringing the spices they had prepared before the Sabbath.
14 They find the empty tomb.
15 They now see the two angels, who give them the message, which they run to tell the eleven.
16)Guards and Pharisees fabricate their “Passover plot” myth.
17 The OTHER of "the eleven disciples" goes up to Galilee
18 and assemble, with the doors closed, and Jesus appears to them
19 Some (notably, Thomas, who wasn't there) still doubt, but then eight days later, Jesus appears again, so he can see.
20)Christ appears to men on the road to Emmaus.
21 They tell the eleven and others at Jerusalem (including that he had apparently already appeared to "Simon", in the other group). They at first still don't believe, but then Jesus appears to them, and corrects their unbelief. He also is given fish and honeycomb to eat.
22 He appears to them again in Galilee (sea of Tiberias), and causes them to catch a huge net of fish, which he gives them to eat.
23, 24 Jumps to end of forty days, with different parts of Great Commission reported by Matthew and Mark
25 ascension
26 Disciples begin to carry out commission. Picks up in book of Acts.

1 Corinthians 15
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received, that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,
4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures;
5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the Twelve.
6 Afterward He was seen by over five hundred brothers at once, of whom the greater part remain until this present day, but also some fell asleep.
7 Afterward He was seen by James, then by all the apostles.
 
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