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The Freewillers Shell Game part 1.

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jarthur001, Nov 1, 2006.

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  1. James_Newman

    James_Newman New Member

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    Does it matter?
    Is there anything that God doesn't know?
     
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  2. Jarthur001

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    I love it!!! :) :)

    Lets review the little game.

    1st it was...no you do not understand the name..
    2nd...no..the problem is time..
    3rd...now its the world.

    :)

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    we move on.....

    You said...I don't see nothing about no rocks here James.
    1) Are rocks prt of the world God made...or was rocks here forever?

    You said... "indefinite continued progress of existence and events in the past, present, and future"

    1) is progress not a measure of change?
    2) is existence not creation?
    3) events happen IN TIME. no?
    4) Past....is past like saying before??

    Is not time a measurement of time, of God creation?????????????????????

    Does God save MAN? The man that is part of creation?

    Hello? :)

    In Christ...Jamie our little boy
     
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  3. Brother Bob

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    Yea, James;
    Is there anything that God doesn't know?
     
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  4. Brother Bob

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    I think we made a little progress Jamie boy

     
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  5. Jarthur001

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    :)

    We have moved from.."no you do not understand the meaning...to time...to the world....now back to God know.

    God knows all things bob. Now we look at the text again..

    1) Now who are the foreknown?
    :)
     
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  6. Brother Bob

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    The believer..........

    God’s omniscience and omnipresence
    omnitemporal
    omnipotent
    God knows the results of our decisions, not through absolute prediction but rather because He can already observe those results
     
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    I don't know why you persist, Jarthur, but admire you for it. :smilewinkgrin:

    WHOM he foreknew, He predestined. WHOM He predestined, He called.

    The order is crystal clear to anyone with eyes to see, ears to hear, etc.
     
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  8. Brother Bob

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    If God knows all things then He certainly knows who believes so no big deal to know who to predestinate.
     
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  9. Jarthur001

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    THE EARTH WAS NOT MADE BY GOD??????? I love it!!! haha

    That does not even make sense. :)
    You are saying Change is not part of time?
    Your saying progress is not change? This is great!!!

    So then.... creation is TIME!! :)

    When the Bible uses the word before, is it the same as past? :laugh:


    Is not time a mersurement of CHANGE?

    If God saves man and man is in creation...what does this tell you bob??
    Think...its not that hard.
     
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  10. Jarthur001

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    :)

    Now we pull in omniscience and omnipresence.

    But you said God was OUTSIDE of time...why would you post omnitemporal???? :smilewinkgrin:

    Omnitemporal means God is in all time.

    You said God is outside of time

    Which is it Bob?????????? :) i love it


    In Christ...Jamie you little boy
     
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  11. Brother Bob

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    Genesis 1

    "1": In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    What you been drinking Jamie boy?

    If I were building a bridge and you ask me how is it going? I would say about half finished, (that would be progress)but if you ask "how long it take you to do this much"? then that would be time James
    I hope you are writing this down James!
    No, after creation, God created time too, James.

    Again, you could say before salvation you must believe.
    Write it down James.

    Not particular, Satan transformed himself as a minister of righteous and I don't think it took time.
    I am trying Jamie boy!!!

    God is all in all. He can be in time when He wants such as Jesus dying on the cross. I thought you knew Jesus was God in the flesh Jamie boy?

    You are not too good at this Shell Game are you Jamie boy?????
     
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    No it is not Jamie boy, it is too deep for you I guess. It is just most of what we been discussing so far was about Him outside of time.

    James, let me help you a little. You are taking one step forward and two back. You will be pulling your hair out soon.
     
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    Final!!!!!!


    it only took 5 pages. :)

    So you statement..."Now, I see your problem. You are judging everything by time. Even "foreknow" is all about time. Well, you fail to recognize that God is without time and does not have to see in the future or the past for He sees all at once and forever. ".....was just another bogus shell game. right? :)

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=890788&postcount=111


    So now back to forknow....

    When did God know what He knows?

    Did God knew as He made man?
    Did God know after He made man?

    :)
     
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  15. Jarthur001

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    OOOPs..i post to soon.

    Is God temporal or atemporal???
     
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    Nothing has changed.
     
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    Bob...you said...

    God is all in all. He can be in time when He wants ...


    Can He or not??
     
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  18. Brother Bob

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    God is atemporal but can work in temporal at His will.

    Scripture only take me back to the beginning of time. No man has known the mind of God and certainly not I. Scripture says He foreknew before the foundation of the world.
     
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    Omnitemporal. Nice try.
     
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  20. Jarthur001

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    Omnitemporal means God is in all time. Is this what you believe?
     
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