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Van

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SavedByGrace said:
When you know what you are talking about come back
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You can always tell when a fraud has been exposed by the shift to mindless assertions of expertise.

Returning to topic, the deity of Christ is taught by Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1 if properly translated according to the Granville Sharpe rule. Other verses also support the deity of Christ.

Acts 20:28; As the Son of God, Christ is divine.
Eph 5:5; Here the kingdom of heaven is clearly the domain of both Christ and God.
2 Thess 1:12; our God and Lord Jesus Christ
1 Tim 5:21; this puts God and Christ on equal footing
2 Tim 4:1; Another verse presenting equal footing
Jude 4, Our only Master and Lord puts Christ equal to the highest authority
 
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SavedByGrace said:
this might help you, Ancient Greek grammar - Wikipedia
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Then this presents even more problems. No one is sure beyond a reasonable doubt. Each translator has a huge problem no matter how well intended. As it is, it's all a best guess. is this right?. If not what on earth makes there grammar correct? Even you do not believe in inspired versions of the bible. So in reality you don't know if a translation is right or wrong with no inspiration.
I believe in the God the Father and His Son and His Spirit. How do I know what to believe in if I'm not inspired or led iby God which Bible to read.
Am I inspired if I rely on my God to instruct me and guide my path.
I once used only the ASB Then the NASB. Yet God led me back to the KJV
Go figure
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SavedByGrace said:
Sharp's "Rule" fails here! Matthew 17:1, “τον πετρον και ιακωβον και ιωαννην”

and here...

Romans 1:7, “ἀπὸ θεοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ”

1 Corinthians 1:3, “ἀπὸ θεοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ”

2 Corinthians 1:2, “ἀπὸ θεοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ”

Galatians 1:3, “ἀπὸ θεοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοϋ Χριστοῦ”

And in Patristic Greek

Polycarp Martydom 22 (about 155 AD), “δόζα τώ θεώ καί πατρί καί άγίω πνεύματι…ω ή δόξα σύν τώ πατρί καϊ άγίω πνεύματι εις ούς αιώνας τών αιώνων, αμήν”
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Wow.
 
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SavedByGrace said:
You have said that I don't know. Now you ha ve to prove me wrong
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How? You are suppose to know more than I do. And I have little doubt you do. I understand few things, you at times tell me I am in err. Yes, there are things I known I do not know. But the few truths I know, I know. If I think it to be important, I might say something.
 
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How? You are suppose to know more than I do. And I have little doubt you do. I understand few things, you at times tell me I am in err. Yes, there are things I known I do not know. But the few truths I know, I know. If I think it to be important, I might say something.
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Whatever
 
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When you see the "I am right and you are wrong because God told me so" you know you are at the end of the line...
 
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SavedByGrace said:
Winer may have denied the Holy Trinity. But as Dr A T Robertson said was one of best Greek grammarians. He is better than most today
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Think main point of DR Wallace is that since Winer got Sharp rule wrong, people just assumed he was right!
 
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