The Insanity of the "right" to have guns!

[SavedByGrace]

Tell you what --- I will answer your question - just as soon when you answer my question --- (which you quoted)
as to why God did NOT save Pa and his family

Because in His Infinite Wisdom, God allows some of His children to die in various ways, and in other instances He will deliver them

Your reasoning shows your lack of understanding of God's Workings

 

[Salty]

Found a web page that stated the US homicide rate is: 535 homicides per 1.5 million inhabitants
(bold my emphasis)

Wow 535 is a lot - but lets put that in perspective = less than 1 per thousand.
( did I figure that correctly - if not please correct me)

This link states that in 2019 (in the USA) that in 2019 there were 13,927 murders.
26% were by a weapon that was NOT a firearm. That 26% = 3,669.

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

 

[Salty]

Now read the full account for this

Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king. But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up.”
Daniel 3:16-18

Was God able to deliver them or not?

I found a good quote that should answer this:
"Because in His Infinite Wisdom, God allows some of His children to die in various ways, and in other instances He will deliver them"

 

[Salty]

What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

FastStats

 

[SavedByGrace]

What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

FastStats

Your country looks like a very depressed place to live with such high of people killing themselves

 

[SavedByGrace]

I found a good quote that should answer this:
"Because in His Infinite Wisdom, God allows some of His children to die in various ways, and in other instances He will deliver them"

You are arguing against the Bible

 

[Reformed1689]

These MASS murders, and MANY more that we see on a regular basis, shows that it is both UNBIBLICAL and UNCHRISTIAN for anyone, especially if the are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, to own any form of weapon!

No, that is not what it shows at all. It shows that there are some people who use things for evil. That is all, nothing less, nothing more.

 

[Reformed1689]

There is no reason for any True Christian to own a gun

Hmm, self defense? Hunting? The fun of shooting targets?

 

[Reformed1689]

Your country looks like a very depressed place to live with such high of people killing themselves

13.8 per 100,000 here 10 per 100,000 in the UK. Both are less than 1%, what is your point?

 

[Salty]

Your country looks like a very depressed place to live with such high of people killing themselves

I started to write an extensive reply - but I don't want to hijack this thread
so please go here for that answer. What should we do about Suicides
It is a thread that ALL Christians need to present to their church

and YES SBG - there are MANY Americans, as well as British citizens who are depressed
But we have the answer in our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.

The ball is NOW in the court of our Evangelical Bible believing churches.

 

[Salty]

These MASS murders, and MANY more that we see on a regular basis, shows that it is both UNBIBLICAL and UNCHRISTIAN for anyone, especially if the are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, to own any form of weapon!

Scripture reference please?

 

[JonC]

O ye of little faith

Actually, I never carry a gun.

 

[Salty]

Actually, I never carry a gun.

Thats right - a gun is only on a tank or in the artillery

 

[JesusFan]

Multiple people shot California church in Laguna Woods Orange County one person detained casualties | Daily Mail Online

Buffalo shooter targeted Black neighborhood, officials say

These MASS murders, and MANY more that we see on a regular basis, shows that it is both UNBIBLICAL and UNCHRISTIAN for anyone, especially if the are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, to own any form of weapon!

The US Constitution that allows for this is VERY WRONG!

They were white supremacy racists and bigots, sinners who acted out, but should we outlaw all cars and trucks then based upon drunks killing tens of thousands while driving every year?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Scripture reference please?

THIS is what God desires

He will settle disputes among the nations and provide arbitration for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plows and their spears into pruning knives. Nation will not take up the sword against nation, and they will never again train for war, Isaiah 2:4

He shall judge between many peoples, and shall decide for strong nations far away; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore, Micah 4:3

Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruning hooks into spears; let the weak say, “I am a warrior.”, Joel 3:10

Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword., Matthew 26:52

Now give ONE Scripture that says a Christian can own a gun

 

[JesusFan]

It's actually a guarantee of freedom from the Globalist agenda

Its to make sure that a tyrant govt not allowed to come to pass!

 

[SavedByGrace]

They were white supremacy racists and bigots, sinners who acted out, but should we outlaw all cars and trucks then based upon drunks killing tens of thousands while driving every year?

Did you read the OP? it is about WEAPONS used for mass murder!

 

[JesusFan]

THIS is what God desires

He will settle disputes among the nations and provide arbitration for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plows and their spears into pruning knives. Nation will not take up the sword against nation, and they will never again train for war, Isaiah 2:4

He shall judge between many peoples, and shall decide for strong nations far away; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore, Micah 4:3

Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruning hooks into spears; let the weak say, “I am a warrior.”, Joel 3:10

Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword., Matthew 26:52

Now give ONE Scripture that says a Christian can own a gun

Yes, when Jesus has returned, but we can still use weapons for self defense, eh?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Its to make sure that a tyrant govt not allowed to come to pass!

you mean like Jan 6 last year?

 

[SavedByGrace]

but we can still use weapons for self defense, eh?

just ONE verse will do!

 

[JesusFan]

Did you read the OP? it is about WEAPONS used for mass murder!

Since people use knives to kill, outlaw all of them now also?