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The Jehovah’s Witnesses and The Holy Spirit

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Sep 15, 2020.

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    does the Bible actually teach an "eternal Sonship" of Jesus, or is this theological without the Bible?
     
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    Please show this from the Holy Bible, as I see it nowhere!
     
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    Jude 1:9, ". . . said, The Lord rebuke thee."

    ASV, Zechariah 3:2, ". . . Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, . . ."
     
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    but, where is this taught in the Bible, "The notion that Michael Archangel is the uncreated Son of God has long been held by Trinitarans"?
     
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    Calvin held to that also, but both are wrong, as Micheal was a created being, and God the father ordered ALL of the angels worship Jesus as being also God!
     
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    Jesus is NEVER identified with as being Michael in the Bible!
     
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    Jesus is eternally God, Micheal was a created being!
     
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    Its nowhere in the Bible!
     
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    If jesus was eternall
    if Jesus was begotten, was the Son, but if he existed eternally by His own power, not!
     
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    He is an eternal man now, Hebrews 13:8, "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."
     
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    Prove this.
     
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    Where is the Trinity taught by the name "Trinity?"
     
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    explain
     
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    All Angels were created, and commanded to worship the Son, so Jesus would not be worshipping Himself!
     
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    Hebrews 1:6, "And again, when he brings The Firstborn into the world, He says, “Let all God’s angels worship Him.”
     
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    was just saying that if Jesus was eternally begooten by/of the father, would be the Sin, but if he was eternally God by Himself, self generated, would not be !
     
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    That would have included michael!
     
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    There is no "generation" within the Godhead, at least not taught in Scripture
     
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    ALL means just that, even the Archangel
     
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    Its found in the Creeds, but not the scriptures!
     
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