The Jehovah’s Witnesses and The Holy Spirit

[SavedByGrace]

So you deny His eternal Sonship prior to His incarnation.

does the Bible actually teach an "eternal Sonship" of Jesus, or is this theological without the Bible?

 

[SavedByGrace]

The notion that Michael Archangel is the uncreated Son of God has long been held by Trinitarans. Baptist John Gill as an example. See his comment on Jude 1:9.

The Angel of Jehovah, Zechariah 3:2.

Please show this from the Holy Bible, as I see it nowhere!

 

[37818]

Please show this from the Holy Bible, as I see it nowhere!

Jude 1:9, ". . . said, The Lord rebuke thee."

ASV, Zechariah 3:2, ". . . Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, . . ."

 

[SavedByGrace]

Jude 1:9, ". . . said, The Lord rebuke thee."

ASV, Zechariah 3:2, ". . . Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, . . ."

but, where is this taught in the Bible, "The notion that Michael Archangel is the uncreated Son of God has long been held by Trinitarans"?

 

[Yeshua1]

The notion that Michael Archangel is the uncreated Son of God has long been held by Trinitarans. Baptist John Gill as an example. See his comment on Jude 1:9.

The Angel of Jehovah, Zechariah 3:2.

Calvin held to that also, but both are wrong, as Micheal was a created being, and God the father ordered ALL of the angels worship Jesus as being also God!

 

[Yeshua1]

And Gill & those others are just-as-wrong as the cults are.

Jesus is NEVER identified with as being Michael in the Bible!

 

[Yeshua1]

Jude 1:9, ". . . said, The Lord rebuke thee."

ASV, Zechariah 3:2, ". . . Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, . . ."

Jesus is eternally God, Micheal was a created being!

 

[Yeshua1]

but, where is this taught in the Bible, "The notion that Michael Archangel is the uncreated Son of God has long been held by Trinitarans"?

Its nowhere in the Bible!

 

[Yeshua1]

If jesus was eternall

does the Bible actually teach an "eternal Sonship" of Jesus, or is this theological without the Bible?

if Jesus was begotten, was the Son, but if he existed eternally by His own power, not!

 

[37818]

He is an eternal man now, Hebrews 13:8, "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

 

[37818]

. . . Micheal was a created being!

Prove this.

 

[37818]

but, where is this taught in the Bible, "The notion that Michael Archangel is the uncreated Son of God has long been held by Trinitarans"?

Where is the Trinity taught by the name "Trinity?"

 

[SavedByGrace]

If jesus was eternall

if Jesus was begotten, was the Son, but if he existed eternally by His own power, not!

explain

 

[Yeshua1]

Prove this.

All Angels were created, and commanded to worship the Son, so Jesus would not be worshipping Himself!

 

[SavedByGrace]

All Angels were created, and commanded to worship the Son, so Jesus would not be worshipping Himself!

Hebrews 1:6, "And again, when he brings The Firstborn into the world, He says, “Let all God’s angels worship Him.”

 

[Yeshua1]

explain

was just saying that if Jesus was eternally begooten by/of the father, would be the Sin, but if he was eternally God by Himself, self generated, would not be !

 

[Yeshua1]

Hebrews 1:6, "And again, when he brings The Firstborn into the world, He says, “Let all God’s angels worship Him.”

That would have included michael!

 

[SavedByGrace]

was just saying that if Jesus was eternally begooten by/of the father, would be the Sin, but if he was eternally God by Himself, self generated, would not be !

There is no "generation" within the Godhead, at least not taught in Scripture

 

[SavedByGrace]

That would have included michael!

ALL means just that, even the Archangel

 

[Yeshua1]

There is no "generation" within the Godhead, at least not taught in Scripture

Its found in the Creeds, but not the scriptures!