"The Prophecy of Israel"

Gentiles and Jews are the stay in Christ, do NOT change natrionalties!

 

The question is, "Are you, CMG, a heretic or apostate? Did Jesus & the Apostles got it all wrong." Your thinking is carnal.

So Jesus needed have come, needn't have suffered & died. All the Old Covenant promises stand without the Messiah. Who wants a New Covenant? The Jews are happy with the OC.

Go back & read your Bible.

The old Covenant was conditional, the promises dependant on obedience.

Exo. 19:5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.’

Mat. 21:
43 ‘Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.’
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them. ​

The Jewish leaders understood Jesus' warning - & rejected it & him.
BUT
The Jewish people received the Gospel in their thousands. The Holy Nation was indeed comprised of Jewish people from all around the world, from Pentecost onwards. Gentiles were added in according to God's first promise to Abram in Gen. 12. And the Jewish leaders were themselves cast out, according to Moses warning echoed by Peter in Acts 3. The Gospel spread through God's whole earth to all families on earth.

The NH&NE is now the promised land.

 

Christ permanently abolished the physical nation of Israel in AD70. And made it impossible for it ever to reform when he abolished circumcision and the Law on the cross. Today's physical Israel is not biblical Israel in any sense. In fact, they exist only because they did not follow Paul, Peter and the other thousands of Israelites who accepted Jesus as Messiah. Today's Jews follow Satan by default and worship only him to this day.

 

The promises remain to Israel. But the unbelieving Jews left Israel when they rejected Christ. Only biblical Israel, to whom the promises apply remains - in Christ.

“For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea. For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” (2 Corinthians 1:19–20) (KJV 1900)

 

Yes they do. They are citizens of heaven. We are pilgrims in a foreign land. Or as the song says, This world is not my home, I just passing though

 

They are still as they were at birth, jews or gentiles!

 

As Peter wrote -

1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To God’s elect, exiles, scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:
Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

11 Dear friends, I urge you, as foreigners and exiles, to abstain from sinful desires, which wage war against your soul. 12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.​

 

Saved jews would be a part of spiritual israel, but so are saved Gentiles!

 

Jews do not become gentiles at conversion, as we do not become Jews when saved!

 

“Now the promises were made to Abraham and his Seed. He does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your Seed,” meaning one, who is Christ.” (Galatians 3:16) (MEV)

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29) (MEV)

 

There are both saved jews and Gentiles in Spiritual israel, correct?

 

The entire New Covenant Israel was Jewish by the thousands until God began grafting in gentiles in place of the unbelievers he removed. These also forfeited the promises. If you can realize Jesus is Israel along with those connected to him by faith, it is simple. Any not connected to him by faith are not Israel.

 

No jew not saved by him would be in spiritual israel, but they still are Jews in nation of Israel!

 

So Paul was lying and the bible is not trustworthy?

 

Read Ephesians. Believers are in Christ, accepted in Christ by grace, through faith.

The everlasting covenant in Jesus Christ blood saves all believers, including the OC believers. See Hebrews 11.