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FTL - Faster Than Light!Originally posted by Paul33:
If only you could read the labels on your drawyers.
Originally posted by Charles Meadows:
[QB] ituttut: What was written before Damascus Road was for our learning; not for application to us.
This statement typifies the problems with much of dispensationalist thought. Jesus (God Himself) came to earth and spoke - and we've got it on paper!!!![]()
But many of our brethren choose to say that what Jesus said is "not for us". They say this because it doesn't fit into their pre-determined theological scheme. A strict literal interpretation of the scriptures is more important than the words of Jesus.![]()
Paul the apostle recorded the SUBSEQUENT STATEMENTS of the Lord Jesus Christ FROM HEAVEN to the body of Christ. (Acts 26, 2 Cor.12, 1 Cor.14, Eph.3) His words are not found ONLY IN RED within the gospels. Those are the words of his JEWISH MINISTRY while on EARTH. (Rom.15, Matt.10, 15) Paul recorded his HEAVENLY WORDS.Originally posted by carlaimpinge:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Charles Meadows:
What was written before Damascus Road was for our learning; not for application to us.
This statement typifies the problems with much of dispensationalist thought. Jesus (God Himself) came to earth and spoke - and we've got it on paper!!!![]()
But many of our brethren choose to say that what Jesus said is "not for us". They say this because it doesn't fit into their pre-determined theological scheme. A strict literal interpretation of the scriptures is more important than the words of Jesus.![]()
Agree, Charles, that this is a problem. But this is HYPER-dispensational teaching of the Ohare/Bullinger crowd. 99.9% of historic dispensationalist (like me) agree that it is nonsense and disavow it.Originally posted by Dr. Bob:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Charles Meadows:
What was written before Damascus Road was for our learning; not for application to us.
This statement typifies the problems with much of dispensationalist thought.
Any particular thing you need help with? Is it the dispensational gospel of Paul that is utter nonsense to you? Are you of the nation Israel? Peter tells his people that Paul is difficult for them to understand, and they should forth the effort.Originally posted by Paul33:
What utter nonsense.
Sounds good to me!Originally posted by Paul33:
I am a grafted-in Gentile into the one people of God partaking in and sharing in the new covenant made with true Israel.
The covenant with His people He speaks of comes after the Rapture. His covenant people are promised the earth. We are heaven bound before the kingdom comes to earth.Originally posted by Paul33:
I am a grafted-in Gentile into the one people of God partaking in and sharing in the new covenant made with true Israel.
Amen!Originally posted by DeafPosttrib:
Gentiles are NOW grafting into the tree join with Jews, it is happening, both Gentiles and Jews are merge together, SO, all Israel shall be saved - Romans 11:25-26. In other word, "All Israel shall be saved"- shall be completed at Christ's coming. Like idea as Christ is currently builting the Church of Matt. 16:18. Builting the church is not done, Christ is working on both Jews and Gentiles till when Christ comes, then it will be done.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
People who don't understandOriginally posted by OldRegular:
By the way, those folks who believe in a heavenly people, the Church, and an earthly people, the Jews, need to read Revelation 21, 22.