Then why are you attempting to separate the person from the Word by suggesting that one could come without the other?
Fundemental abc's of theology demand they are not one and the same. Because the written word distinguishes between them. Because only when the word of God is empowered by the living Word is there a creative act occurring. Because only in the action of real salvation are they united and inseparable in obtaing that action - 1 Thes. 1:4-5; 2 Cor. 4:6; Gen. 1:3 - and because in that action THERE ARE NO INSTRUMENTAL MEANS being used and that is obvious in Genesis 1:3 where the word and God are inseparable in the action of creating light and thus in the action where the substance of faith is being created by divine fiat within the darkened heart there is no instrumental means being employed but only God speaking the word of the gospel creating the light of knowlege as in Mathew 16:17 and in 2 Cor. 4:6.
Because you cannot distinguish between things that differ and the scriptuers themselves distinguish when the Word comes in power and when it does not.
You will attempt to deny what I have said but the crucial point that undergirds the truth of what I have said is IMPOSSILBE for you to HONESTLY deny and that is there was NO INSTRUMENTAL MEANS USED in Genesis 1:3 and that is the chosen analogy used by Paul to explain how the "substance" (Heb. 11:1) of faith is imparted in the heart of the elect (2 Cor. 4:6) as the light that removes the darkness and ignorance that Paul defines as alienation from eternal life - Eph. 4:18 and thus produces eternal life by divine fiat or being "CREATED in Christ Jesus" (Eph. 2:10). It is utterly impossible for you to deny that Genesis 1:3 occurred without instrumental means.
Whether you agree or disagree, whether you manipulate or ignore, the readers know the intentional use of Genesis 1:3 in 2 Cor. 4:6 places the final stake in the heart of your arminianism, it drives the final nail in the coffin of your improper interpretation and shovels the final scoop of dirt that buries your position once and for all. The Gospel can come in "word only" but never comes in "word only" when the elect (1 Thes. 1:4) are saved (1 Thes. 1:5) but in POWER and in the Holy Spirit and IN ASSURANCE! Assurance NEVER comes to the lost when the gospel is preached and so this can occur ONLY in salvation when the gospel DOES NOT COME in "word only."
I could NOT AGREE MORE with this statement!!! But keep in mind I'm not the one attempting to separate the Person from His Work...you are.
Do you know the difference between the "Person" of God and His "word" versus His "work"? Apparently not as you use "word" and "work" interchangably here. Nice attempt to confuse the issues but they are not one and the same. His "word" is sometimes disobeyed by men but his "work" is never the act of men and so can never be thwarted by men. His "word" when spoken as a CREATIVE COMMAND is never thwarted by men.
I'm the one arguing that EVERYTIME God's word is proclaimed, read, or heard that Jesus, the person, should get all the credit for bringing it because it is HIS WORD
No one denies this!
...and because of that it comes in power and its living.
However, this statement is pure imagination. This position is simply a lie, a falsehood, a misrepresentation of the facts of scripture. This position fails to discern and distinguish between when God Himself empowers His Word as a COMMAND, which is always effectual versus merely expressed by men as His revealed will, which is always non-effectual and violated by men every day of the week.
You are the one attempting to argue that the Word can come apart from the person and not have power some of the time.
His written word is disobeyed by sinners all the time, every minute, every hour, every day in every week of every year. However, His CREATIVE WORD of command as in Genesis 1:3 is ALWAYS EFFECTUAL and can never be hindered or overthrown by the will or actions of men and it is the Word as described in Genesis 1:3 that is applied to the INTERNAL work of the Holy Spirit in CREATING a person in Christ Jesus by speaking into existence the "substance" of faith or the LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE that removes eternal death "alienated from eternal life through ignorance that is IN THEM" that removes "the blindness of their heart" - Eph. 4:18.
You need to apply your own belief and live by the statement you wrote above. I couldn't have said it better myself.
You don't understand what I said becuase if you did you would not make this rediculous remark. Try to understand the difference between the CREATIVE WORD of God versus the REVEALED Word of God. The revealed word of God does not come in power and in demonstration of the Spirit nor in assurance WITHIN all men but is repudiated, violated, trampled upon, rejected, resisted, and overruled. However, when God empowers HIs word and it becomes HIS CREATIVE WORD OF COMMAND nothing can resist, overturn, prevent or overrule but what He speaks into existence becomes reality and that is precisely what Paul claims when the gospel comes as the CREATIVE WORD OF COMMAND (Rom. 10:17 "rhema"; 2 Cor. 4:6; Eph. 2:10a; James 1:18; etc.). Go learn the difference and then come back and talk.
