Top 10 Global Warming Myths

[carpro]

Gore Dodges Fact-Check on His 2006 Prediction: Earth at ‘Point of No Return Within 10 Years’

When asked about his 2006 prediction that unless nations took “drastic measures” then the Earth "would reach a point of no return within 10 years," former Democratic Vice President Al Gore did not answer the question and instead said, “a lot of serious damage has been done.”

On Fox News Sunday, June 4, host Chris Wallace asked Gore, “After your movie ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ came out in 2006, you made the following comments as part of your publicity for the movie. You said unless we took ‘drastic measures, the world would reach a point of no return within 10 years,’ and you called it a true planetary emergency. We’re 11 years later, weren’t you wrong?”

 

[MsGuidedAngel]

The Global Warming aka Climate Change is a HOAX!! Our ONE TRUE GOD the FATHER and HIS ONE and ONLY SON Jesus-Yeshua Christ who art in Heaven Above Controls the WEATHER ( UNIVERSE ) and The EARTH!!

Please Pray for Our Judeo-Christian Nation USA and Israel-Yisrael Everyday!! "Pray Without Ceasing." ( 1 Thessalonians 5:17 KJV )!!

Happy Shavua Tov ( A Good Week ) Everyone!!

Love Always and Shalom ( Peace ), YSIC \o/

Kristi Ann

 

[HankD]

Remember the "Acid Rain" scare/hysterics of the 80's? Gazillions of acres of forests to be consumed, gazillions of tons of fresh water fish to come floating to the surface dead?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryb...arming-hysteria-is-pouring-down/#505b76b853fc

HankD

 

[Revmitchell]

Remember the "Acid Rain" scare/hysterics of the 80's? Gazillions of acres of forests to be consumed, gazillions of tons of fresh water fish to come floating to the surface dead?



https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryb...arming-hysteria-is-pouring-down/#505b76b853fc

HankD

How about the coming ice age that was all the rage in the late 70's and early 80's.

 

[Use of Time]

How about the coming ice age that was all the rage in the late 70's and early 80's.

You should probably stay away from this type of topic. You started with a bunch of sources from the 90's and you appear to be going farther back in time in terms of relevancy.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

The Global Warming aka Climate Change is a HOAX!! Our ONE TRUE GOD the FATHER and HIS ONE and ONLY SON Jesus-Yeshua Christ who art in Heaven Above Controls the WEATHER ( UNIVERSE ) and The EARTH!!

The 2nd sentence is absolutely true, which makes the 1st sentence seem presumptuous. An omnipotent God can certainly cause Earth's climate to warm, and there's good data that indicate such warming has been occurring over the past century-plus. The real hoaxes are the hysterical (worse than the) worst case scenarios being tossed around the media. However, we must remember that "The earth is the LORD's, and the fullness thereof" and that we are merely stewards, commanded to use God's resources wisely.

From #43: "Remember the "Acid Rain" scare/hysterics of the 80's? Gazillions of acres of forests to be consumed, gazillions of tons of fresh water fish to come floating to the surface dead?"

Acid rain was/is real, but as with climate change, the extremists shouted the loudest. The decrease in atmospheric SOx and NOx thanks to anti -pollution regs has modified the acidity, and the buffering capability of the soil was apparently underestimated by a large margin.

 

[HankD]

From #43: "Remember the "Acid Rain" scare/hysterics of the 80's? Gazillions of acres of forests to be consumed, gazillions of tons of fresh water fish to come floating to the surface dead?"

Acid rain was/is real, but as with climate change, the extremists shouted the loudest. The decrease in atmospheric SOx and NOx thanks to anti -pollution regs has modified the acidity, and the buffering capability of the soil was apparently underestimated by a large margin.

Well perhaps then but they were mistaken about the effects, I have lived in several states From Maine to Washington and have not seen the gazillions of acres of dead trees and/or the gazillions of tons of dead fish.

HankD

 

[OnlyaSinner]

Well perhaps then but they were mistaken about the effects, I have lived in several states From Maine to Washington and have not seen the gazillions of acres of dead trees and/or the gazillions of tons of dead fish.

HankD

As a forester in Maine for the past 40+ years, I've seen loads of dead trees, but cannot say that any were killed by acid rain. Spruce budworm took out a few hundred million in the mid-70s to mid-80s, "fir waves" continue to produce gray layers on high peaks, and tree mortality is a natural part of a dynamic forest.

 

[HankD]

As a forester in Maine for the past 40+ years, I've seen loads of dead trees, but cannot say that any were killed by acid rain. Spruce budworm took out a few hundred million in the mid-70s to mid-80s, "fir waves" continue to produce gray layers on high peaks, and tree mortality is a natural part of a dynamic forest.

Small world OAS. I lived in Maine (Montville - between Augusta and Bangor) and worked as an IT contractor for Great Northern and Sappi.

Where are you located?

HankD

 

[OnlyaSinner]

Small world OAS. I lived in Maine (Montville - between Augusta and Bangor) and worked as an IT contractor for Great Northern and Sappi.

Where are you located?

HankD

Currently in the western Maine foothills near Farmington. Lived in Bangor when I was at U. Maine, then 10 years in Fort Kent for Seven Islands, watching budworm destroy the fir. We moved there on New Year's Day, not the usual time to move north, and though moving day was mild, Jan 12 that year had 41 below.
Moved to Gardiner, a bit south of Augusta, when I began to work on Maine's public lands, then to my current location 19 years ago. I grew up one town north of Montville, just in New Jersey. (northern Morris County, in the heavily forested Jersey Highlands)

 

[HankD]

Currently in the western Maine foothills near Farmington. Lived in Bangor when I was at U. Maine, then 10 years in Fort Kent for Seven Islands, watching budworm destroy the fir. We moved there on New Year's Day, not the usual time to move north, and though moving day was mild, Jan 12 that year had 41 below.
Moved to Gardiner, a bit south of Augusta, when I began to work on Maine's public lands, then to my current location 19 years ago. I grew up one town north of Montville, just in New Jersey. (northern Morris County, in the heavily forested Jersey Highlands)

I was just back to Montville - daughter lives in Waterville - Visiting last week before the blackflies arrive

Currently live in Shelton WA about 60 miles south of Seattle - lots of lumbering industry here as well.

HankD

 

[Gold Dragon]

If we want to see the effects of unchecked sulfur emissions and acid rain we just need to look at china. Fortunately they are finally doing something about it. Hopefully there isn't too much irreversible damage. Fortunately North America set up regulations on sulfur emissions in the 70s to prevent this from happening.

www.ndtv.com/world-news/acid-rains-make-life-hard-in-258-chinese-cities-444967

 

[Gold Dragon]

The acid rain story is a success story of environmental policy. The serial maps on this site recording the average pH of rain across the united states directly follows SO4 and NO3 in the atmosphere from 1986 to 2012 and is a direct result of regulating emissions in the United States and Canada.

NADP Animated Maps

 

[HankD]

The acid rain story is a success story of environmental policy. The serial maps on this site recording the average pH of rain across the united states directly follows SO4 and NO3 in the atmosphere from 1986 to 2012 and is a direct result of regulating emissions in the United States and Canada.

NADP Animated Maps

Thank you GD. You answered my inquiry of my post #43. I stand corrected in my assumption that it was fake news alone. There were news media hysterics none the less. Perhaps it was warranted seeing the effects in China of ignoring the problem.

Also, I do have concerns for "climate change". Where to put those concerns in a prioritized list of values I'm not sure seeing the other global problems both physical and sociological.

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HankD

 

[Lewis]

The acid rain story is a success story of environmental policy. The serial maps on this site recording the average pH of rain across the united states directly follows SO4 and NO3 in the atmosphere from 1986 to 2012 and is a direct result of regulating emissions in the United States and Canada.

NADP Animated Maps

Or...You could say it was a success story of technology moving and providing answers to legitimate problems. Specifically smokestack scrubbers, catalytic converters etc. Unlike the C02 scare.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Or...You could say it was a success story of technology moving and providing answers to legitimate problems. Specifically smokestack scrubbers, catalytic converters etc. Unlike the C02 scare.

And you think the energy companies and manufacturers would have invested in those technologies that undercut their bottom line out of the goodness of their heart?

 

[HankD]

And you think the energy companies and manufacturers would have invested in those technologies that undercut their bottom line out of the goodness of their heart?

WHAT!? They didn't? Say it isn't so!

HankD

 

[Lewis]

And you think the energy companies and manufacturers would have invested in those technologies that undercut their bottom line out of the goodness of their heart?

Oh I forgot, the government has to use a sledgehammer to make evil corporations fall in line. You do realize Businesses fall all over themselves trying to appear as 'Green' as possible.

 

[carpro]

‘Propaganda’: Top MIT Climate Scientist Trashes ‘97% Consensus’ Claim


‘Propaganda’: Top MIT Climate Scientist Trashes ‘97% Consensus’ Claim

MICHAEL BASTASCH


Dr. Richard Lindzen is sick and tired of the media repeating the so-called “97 percent consensus” statistic to show just how strong the global warming agreement is among climate scientists. It’s purely “propaganda,” argues Lindzen.

“It was the narrative from the beginning,” Lindzen, a climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), told RealClear Radio Hour host Bill Frezza Friday. “In 1998, [NASA’s James] Hansen made some vague remarks. Newsweek ran a cover that says all scientists agree. Now they never really tell you what they agree on.”

“It is propaganda,” Lindzen said.



This sort of argument has been around for decades, but recent use of the statistic can be traced to a 2013 report by Australian researcher John Cook.

Cook’s paper found of the scientific study “abstracts expressing a position on [manmade global warming], 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.” But Cook’s assertion has been heavily criticized by researchers carefully examining his methodology.

A paper by five leading climatologists published in the journal Science and Education found only 41 out of the 11,944 published climate studies examined in Cook’s study explicitly stated mankind has caused most of the warming since 1950 — meaning the actual consensus is 0.3 percent.

“It is astonishing that any journal could have published a paper claiming a 97% climate consensus when on the authors’ own analysis the true consensus was well below 1%,” said Dr. David Legates

 

[Revmitchell]

There is no 95 or 97% consensus, its a myth