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HankD

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blessedwife318 said:
Here is the difference I see between past presidents sinful actions and Trumps. I've never seen a fan of JFK say that his stepping out on Jackie made him a great President. Or a fan of Nixon say his paranoia was why they voted for him, or GHWB lying was such a great thing to have in a president. Even with Clinton the argument was that his adultery didn't matter, not that it helped him be a better President. Trump supporters on the other hand laud him for his moral failings and hold them up as reasons to esteem him. So again for me it has never been so much about Trump himself but his supporters and their holding him and his immorality up to be admired. Being manipulative is not a good thing and no one should ever be praised for that moral failing especially by Christians.
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Very weak rebuttal BW. I for one do not hold him up and laud him for his proven immorality.
I don't know any of his supporters who do neither the right sided press commentators.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God including every president who has ever held office.

Folks we do not realize the danger we are in by continuously opening old wounds (divide and conquer) further dividing our nation.

We should put our quibbling aside and pray for our nation and our president, congress, the senate.

Also, God can and has used rulers (of all spiritual status) to glorify Himself. Can and has saved said ruler(s) - Nebuchadnezzar.

With God all things are possible quite often in respond to our prayers.

James 5:16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.


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Very weak rebuttal BW. I for one do not hold him up and laud him for his proven immorality.
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Not so weak apparently as now you at least acknowledge his immorality instead of questioning if it exist.

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Alcott said:
What? You ask if a man is a "moral person," and the reply is that he is a sinner as all are, is a "dodge?" Tell us then-- are you a moral person?
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Do you give Obama as much slack as you do Trump? How often have you defended Obama?
 
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HankD said:
Very weak rebuttal BW. I for one do not hold him up and laud him for his proven immorality.
I don't know any of his supporters who do neither the right sided press commentators.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God including every president who has ever held office.

Folks we do not realize the danger we are in by continuously opening old wounds (divide and conquer) further dividing our nation.

We should put our quibbling aside and pray for our nation and our president, congress, the senate.

Also, God can and has used rulers (of all spiritual status) to glorify Himself. Can and has saved said ruler(s) - Nebuchadnezzar.

With God all things are possible quite often in respond to our prayers.

James 5:16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.


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Did you give Obama as much slack as you do Trump?
 
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Give me an example of when you defended Obama. Thanks.
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you made the innuendo. You go find it.

I've requested prayer for him.
I prayed for him personally, that our Father bless him grant him wisdom and understanding.

Yes, I praised him for his fine example as a family man.

How about yourself for president Trump?

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HankD said:
you made the innuendo. You go find it.

I've requested prayer for him.
I prayed for him personally, that our Father bless him grant him wisdom and understanding.

Yes, I praised him for his fine example as a family man.

How about yourself for president Trump?

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I'll that that as an admission that you have never defended Obama ... but as I remember you have condemned him often.

When will you post your first condemnation of Trump?
 
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HankD said:
Do you consider yourself a moral man?
Right now at this moment on August 25, 2017 do you condemn him for being immoral?

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Trump is immoral. More so than most people. He constantly lies. He daily insults others. He is a glutton. He is grossly arrogant. Those for starters.

By the way, look at this video and see how moral your man is.

 
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How long will we go through this oneupsmanship of accusations of moral/immoral hypocrisy against the POTUS?

Yes I am guilty of this in the past, present and most likely the future and I acknowledge it.

Are you?

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone?

OK he is a sinner. He may be unregenerate, but reviling in it is not good.

It bothered me when it was done with Clinton and Obama and I did let it be known to friends and family.

Ask yourself if you have prayed for him?


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blessedwife318

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HankD said:
Of course.

But let me know BW who here at the BB would question it?

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Well given that it was your question in post 71 that got us to this point...


I was thinking as I was grocery shopping it's amazing how often Rom 3:23 comes up as an excuse for Trumps sins. When anyone who is not saved stands before the judgement seat of God, they will not be able to shrug their shoulders and say well everyone sins. No they will be held responsible for their own sins as perfection is the standard. 1 Cor. 5 makes it clear that Christians have a responsibility to call out sins in professing Christians, including the sin of reviling. No where In Scripture do we see sin downplayed by pointing out other people's sins. In just looking at Stephens speech in Acts 7 others people sins, in this case the history of Israel, are held up not to excuse the actions of the Pharisees but to accuse them since they have not learned from the past.

Now me I'm greatful that God is able to save a wretched depraved sinner like me and because of his amazing Grace I want to live rightly before Him no matter what. I cannot make light of my own wretched sin, and I will not make light of another's especially when they claim to be a Christain.

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HankD

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Perhaps the BB should be renamed to the Scribes, Pharisees and Saducees board.


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