Obama was pro perversion. The man was against anything Godly and for anything that was unGodly.
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I'll that that as an admission that you have never defended Obama ... but as I remember you have condemned him often.
When will you post your first condemnation of Trump?
Never. Condemnation is God's business and I've no authority to usurp His prerogatives. However, I've criticized Trump's actions in private conversations, and for the first time in my 13 presidential votes, cast my ballot for someone not in either major party. On this board I've tried - not always successfully, I'm sure - to back away from criticizing Trump, Obama, HRC, whomever, when I don't have all the information. (Or even close to all of it.)
Surely you jest.
And Trump isn't?
Obama certainly exhibited good family values. Does that count for nothing with you?
Not an excuse. A statement of fact because some folks here seem to think they themselves (or so it seems) are sinless as they so easily broadcast the sins of others.
Granted our President has a sinful past (as we have told and shown the evidence many times).
Pray for him.
Agreed, never said differently.
1 Timothy 2:1 Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,
2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior.
And do tell Hank who here has claimed to be without sin? I'll wait for the quote.
Praying for our president does not equal turning a blind eye to his failings. I pray for him the exact same way I prayed for Obama.
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Praying for our president does not equal turning a blind eye to his failings. I pray for him the exact same way I prayed for Obama.
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A moral person:
Luke 18
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
That is not a definition of moral. What does the word moral mean?
By the way, I do hold myself to a higher standard than I expect from others.
Then maybe you shouldn't assume thoughts about other posters here and only go with things that are actually posted.
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mor·al
ˈmôrəl/
adjective
adjective: moral
- 1.
concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character.
"the moral dimensions of medical intervention"
synonyms: virtuous, good, righteous, upright, upstanding, high-minded, principled, honorable, honest, just, noble, incorruptible, scrupulous, respectable, decent, clean-living, law-abiding
"a moral man"
antonyms: dishonorable- concerned with or derived from the code of interpersonal behavior that is considered right or acceptable in a particular society.
"an individual's ambitions may get out of step with the general moral code"
synonyms: ethical, social, having to do with right and wrong
"moral issues" - examining the nature of ethics and the foundations of good and bad character and conduct.
"moral philosophers"
- concerned with or derived from the code of interpersonal behavior that is considered right or acceptable in a particular society.
- 2.
holding or manifesting high principles for proper conduct.
"he prides himself on being a highly moral and ethical person"
noun: moral; plural noun: morals
- 1.
a lesson, especially one concerning what is right or prudent, that can be derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience.
"the moral of this story was that one must see the beauty in what one has"
synonyms: lesson, message, meaning, significance, signification, import, point, teaching
"the moral of the story" - 2.
a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.
"the corruption of public morals"
synonyms: moral code, code of ethics, (moral) values, principles, standards, (sense of) morality, scruples
"he has no morals"
All I did was answer a question you posed that has lead us down quite a rabbit trail.
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Look BW, I respect your position. Always have.
If I had decided not to vote for President Trump I would probably be there along with the nevertrumpers in a poor evaluation (skewed of course) of his performance.
No one remembers but I also condemned him for his proven immoralities shortly after the primaries began.
Then I considered the alternatives and weighed things in the balance.
The blood of the innocent was the deciding factor for me.
He took a pro-life stance, made a promise (and kept it - Gorsuch).
Of course I am going to defend him (and Pence).
Watch, if he's impeached and made to step down, Pence will be next up for the smear campaign.
HankD
Hank you are one of the few Trump supporters here who I think gives as fair of evaluation of Trump as possible for his supporters.
I have no problem with Pence except with where he hitched his star.
I'm still waiting on a pro life ruling from Gorsuch before I sing his praises as we have been burned by SCOTUS multiple times.
Trumps praise of Planned Parenthood and continual funding of Planned Parenthood leaves a bad taste in my mouth. We will see what happens with the next budget coming up soon but his focus seems to be on the wall not defunding that evil organization.
For me Trump is a symptom of a much bigger problem in the American Church and that is what I'm always aiming at rooting out.
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I have no problem with Pence except with where he hitched his star.
I'm still waiting on a pro life ruling from Gorsuch before I sing his praises as we have been burned by SCOTUS multiple times.
Trumps praise of Planned Parenthood and continual funding of Planned Parenthood leaves a bad taste in my mouth. We will see what happens with the next budget coming up soon but his focus seems to be on the wall not defunding that evil organization.
For me Trump is a symptom of a much bigger problem in the American Church and that is what I'm always aiming at rooting out.
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Using this definition, then yes, I am a moral person. I hold myself to a higher standard than I expect of others.
Are you a moral person?
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