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VACCINATIONS In NY State

Carrying Hepatitis B antibodies does not mean you are immune. It means you have been infected unless you have been vaccinated.

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Good to know that you know more than the doctor who did the blood work.

You do know that doctors don't do blood work?

Blood work is done in labs by Medical Lab Scientists and Medical Technologists. We interpret the results and send them to your doctor.
 
You obviously have not read the law. It grants absolute immunity to the manufacturers.

No, the law protects them from civil lawsuits. It does not protect them from criminal charges.
Instead, the complaint gets paid out of an injury fund even if the vaccine had nothing to do with it.

If my friends vaccine injury was as you say an excuse for bad behavior, why were they paid by the vaccine injury fund? Why was she in the hospital for over two weeks, beginning 3 days after receiving the vaccine, with extreme high fever, seizures, and neurological disorders?

If you receive a vaccination and have any medical issues following it, even if there is no evidence it is related to the vaccine, you get a pay out.
Which vaccine was it?
 
Doctor ordered the blood work.

So the doctor ordering the tests (usually based on the diagnostic software they use) is the same as doing the blood work.
Again you wrote: You wrote: "Good to know that you know more than the doctor who did the blood work."

The thing is, yes, we do - that's why doctors call us.
 

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I wrote: "Vaccine producers are not immune from US law." If they put heroine in a vaccine, or do something criminal, they go to jail. Vaccine producers are immune from endless civil lawsuits ('being sued').
You enjoy playing word games to deceptively try to avoid issues. They are immune from civil liability. The reason for that is that vaccines are not safe. The vaccine industry would collapse under the same liability standards other drugs must meet. Most would never pass the same blind testing other drugs must pass.
The industry is terrified to do a blind autism study of vaxed vs unvaxed kids. That study could easily be done and put the issue to rest. It will never be done because they know what the results would be.
 

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So the doctor ordering the tests (usually based on the diagnostic software they use) is the same as doing the blood work.
Again you wrote: You wrote: "Good to know that you know more than the doctor who did the blood work."

The thing is, yes, we do - that's why doctors call us.
I would doubt you know more than my Dr. He has a PhD in Bio Chemistry.
 
You enjoy playing word games to deceptively try to avoid issues.

I am actually discussing the issues instead of saying vaccine makers are 'immune' from US law.

They are immune from civil liability. The reason for that is that vaccines are not safe.

They can't be sued in personal injury lawsuits where there is no evidence of neglect or wrong doing. That's important. Kids get lots of vaccinations and kids also get sick because kids do gross stuff. If you have kids, you know this. Every time little Timmy gets sick they'd sue anyone they can because little Timmy is perfect, not because Timmy licks the toilet and eats his friends boogers. Timmy's mom would cry in court and the jury would feel bad, because they too have perfect babies, and make them pay his medical bills because the company has money, not because the company did anything wrong.
Because people are stupid and this process is a waste of time and requires lawyets, the vaccine makers decided it would be better just to pay them out then deal with Timmy the toilet lickers parents every time Timmy gets diarrhea from licking toilets and eating dirt.

The vaccine industry would collapse under the same liability standards other drugs must meet. Most would never pass the same blind testing other drugs must pass.
Vaccines are tested. If there is anything wrong with them, they cannot use them.

The industry is terrified to do a blind autism study of vaxed vs unvaxed kids. That study could easily be done and put the issue to rest. It will never be done because they know what the results would be.

Do you actually believe vaccines cause autism? Are you for real?
 

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I am actually discussing the issues instead of saying vaccine makers are 'immune' from US law.



They can't be sued in personal injury lawsuits where there is no evidence of neglect or wrong doing. That's important. Kids get lots of vaccinations and kids also get sick because kids do gross stuff. If you have kids, you know this. Every time little Timmy gets sick they'd sue anyone they can because little Timmy is perfect, not because Timmy licks the toilet and eats his friends boogers. Timmy's mom would cry in court and the jury would feel bad, because they too have perfect babies, and make them pay his medical bills because the company has money, not because the company did anything wrong.
Because people are stupid and this process is a waste of time and requires lawyets, the vaccine makers decided it would be better just to pay them out then deal with Timmy the toilet lickers parents every time Timmy gets diarrhea from licking toilets and eating dirt.


Vaccines are tested. If there is anything wrong with them, they cannot use them.



Do you actually believe vaccines cause autism? Are you for real?
The fact remains glaringly clear that immunizations have been given civil immunity that no other drugs have. That is totally illogical if vaccines are indeed safe.
Do vaccines cause Autism? Autism has risen drastically as the immunization schedule has been accelerated and expanded. No blind studies have been done to rule it out. The autism rates are lower in the unvaccinated community than they are in the vaccinated community. Without true controlled blind testing, the question of autism and vaccines can not be answered. As big as the controversy is, the study should be done. The drug companies and the FDA are terrified of the results. Studies have been done, but the groups considered high risk were eliminated.
 
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don't forget how powerful the BigPharma lobby really is. Those VIC courts are more of a mediator, no fault rather than tort, used to charge 75 cents surcharge on any vaccine to fund them, they settle most of the cases and issue a gag order, so who knows how dangerous or not some of them are. I know all a physician has to do is to disclose something like this:

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Side Effects

and that's enough cover for them. I still think there should be an opt-out, it's your child, not the governments'.

Egypt was a kingdom client state of the Roman Empire, as Judea was.
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus were not citizens of the Roman Empire.
Fun fact, Paul was a citizen of the Roman Empire.

Jesus was not a citizen of the Roman Empire and he was an undocumented worker who traveled between the Kingdom of Judea and Egypt.

Doh, Jesus and His parents were subjects under the jurisdiction of the Roman Empire, less than citizens but still lawful residents. And, funner fact, Paul got citizenship because his old man made some fine tents for the Roman Army.

Jesus would have been the modern equivalent of a Roman National; he was under the sovereign control of Rome but was not a citizen of the state. The peregrini were persons not subject to the Roman civil law, but when under Roman authority were judged by the general law or what came to be viewed as the natural law.

Jesus was not an illegal immigrant or refugee - Capstone Report

they would have been much less likely to crucify Him if He had been a full-blown Roman citizen, But He was still no refugee, no undocumented worker, no illegal alien of His time. Just say no to historical revisionism.
 

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I am actually discussing the issues instead of saying vaccine makers are 'immune' from US law.



They can't be sued in personal injury lawsuits where there is no evidence of neglect or wrong doing. That's important. Kids get lots of vaccinations and kids also get sick because kids do gross stuff. If you have kids, you know this. Every time little Timmy gets sick they'd sue anyone they can because little Timmy is perfect, not because Timmy licks the toilet and eats his friends boogers. Timmy's mom would cry in court and the jury would feel bad, because they too have perfect babies, and make them pay his medical bills because the company has money, not because the company did anything wrong.
Because people are stupid and this process is a waste of time and requires lawyets, the vaccine makers decided it would be better just to pay them out then deal with Timmy the toilet lickers parents every time Timmy gets diarrhea from licking toilets and eating dirt.


Vaccines are tested. If there is anything wrong with them, they cannot use them.



Do you actually believe vaccines cause autism? Are you for real?
MMR vaccine?
With any medicine, including vaccines, there is a chance of reactions. These are usually mild and go away on their own, but serious reactions are also possible.

Getting MMR vaccine is much safer than getting measles, mumps, or rubella disease. Most people who get MMR vaccine do not have any problems with it.

After MMR vaccination, a person might experience:

Minor events:

  • Sore arm from the injection
  • Fever
  • Redness or rash at the injection site
  • Swelling of glands in the cheeks or neck
If these events happen, they usually begin within 2 weeks after the shot. They occur less often after the second dose.

Moderate events:

  • Seizure (jerking or staring) often associated with fever
  • Temporary pain and stiffness in the joints, mostly in teenage or adult women
  • Temporary low platelet count, which can cause unusual bleeding or bruising
  • Rash all over body
Severe events occur very rarely:

  • Deafness
  • Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness
  • Brain damage
Other things that could happen after this vaccine:

  • People sometimes faint after medical procedures, including vaccination. Sitting or lying down for about 15 minutes can help prevent fainting and injuries caused by a fall. Tell your provider if you feel dizzy or have vision changes or ringing in the ears.
  • Some people get shoulder pain that can be more severe and longer-lasting than routine soreness that can follow injections. This happens very rarely.
  • Any medication can cause a severe allergic reaction. Such reactions to a vaccine are estimated at about 1 in a million doses, and would happen within a few minutes to a few hours after the vaccination.
As with any medicine, there is a very remote chance of a vaccine causing a serious injury or death.

The safety of vaccines is always being monitored. For more information, visit: www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/.

This information is based on the MMR VIS.
 
The fact remains glaringly clear that immunizations have been given civil immunity that no other drugs have.

They aren't drugs, they are vaccines.

That is totally illogical if vaccines are indeed safe.

Vaccines are not drugs. You can't compare vaccines to something they are not. Vaccines are bits of a microbe that you expose the body to, and it responds by producing antibodies. That way, if the body is ever exposed to the actual microbe, it is ready for it. Vaccines have saved millions of lives.

The reason you can't sue vaccine companies is because they aren't drugs. If someone gets a fever days after a vaccine, there is no way to prove it was caused by the vaccine. They aren't drugs.
The company can't be sued because they didn't do anything wrong just because someone got a fever.

A drug is a specific molecule, generally speaking, and it potentially has various effects of different parts of the body. Companies have to thoroughly test drugs to know their side effects. Companies get sued because they created specific side effects.

A vaccine is made of part of a virus, for example. They are naturally occurring.
Getting exposed to a piece of virus or protein, etc, creates an immunological response. In rare cases this causes adverse non-specific side effects. In the same way, people can die from a simple cold or infection.
There is a difference in that we have no idea if it was caused by a vaccine or caused by another microbe. Kids get sick all the time because they lick things and put weird things in their mouth. Kids also get vaccinated.



Do vaccines cause Autism? Autism has risen drastically as the immunization schedule has been accelerated and expanded. No blind studies have been done to rule it out. The autism rates are lower in the unvaccinated community than they are in the vaccinated community. Without true controlled blind testing, the question of autism and vaccines can not be answered. As big as the controversy is, the study should be done. The drug companies and the FDA are terrified of the results. Studies have been done, but the groups considered high risk were eliminated.

You realize that vaccines are used throughout the planet - so if there were a link - and there is not - it would require a massive global conspiracy that even Iceland and Lichtenstein are playing a role. Autism diagnoses are increasing because it's being better understand and more diagnosed. Vaccines causing autism requires a deliberate ignorance of medicine in the way people argue that the Earth is flat.

The amount of medical ignorance propagated on the internet is stunning. I work in massive hospital lab that does testing for outside companies. I have seen specimens from patients paying thousands and tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket for unnecessary blood tests. They read on a blog that they might be tired because they have low (whatever - sometimes they order dozens of test) and they get it tested without any basis for it - and they always come out normal.

People read natural-mommy-blog and think they are experts in medicine. If they want to waste their money, that's fine. The problem is that their kids become disease vectors for children younger than them.

Choosing to be a walking biohazard is not a personal choice.
 
MMR vaccine?
With any medicine, including vaccines, there is a chance of reactions. These are usually mild and go away on their own, but serious reactions are also possible.

Getting MMR vaccine is much safer than getting measles, mumps, or rubella disease. Most people who get MMR vaccine do not have any problems with it.

After MMR vaccination, a person might experience:

Minor events:

  • Sore arm from the injection
  • Fever
  • Redness or rash at the injection site
  • Swelling of glands in the cheeks or neck
If these events happen, they usually begin within 2 weeks after the shot. They occur less often after the second dose.

Moderate events:

  • Seizure (jerking or staring) often associated with fever
  • Temporary pain and stiffness in the joints, mostly in teenage or adult women
  • Temporary low platelet count, which can cause unusual bleeding or bruising
  • Rash all over body
Severe events occur very rarely:

  • Deafness
  • Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness
  • Brain damage
Other things that could happen after this vaccine:

  • People sometimes faint after medical procedures, including vaccination. Sitting or lying down for about 15 minutes can help prevent fainting and injuries caused by a fall. Tell your provider if you feel dizzy or have vision changes or ringing in the ears.
  • Some people get shoulder pain that can be more severe and longer-lasting than routine soreness that can follow injections. This happens very rarely.
  • Any medication can cause a severe allergic reaction. Such reactions to a vaccine are estimated at about 1 in a million doses, and would happen within a few minutes to a few hours after the vaccination.
As with any medicine, there is a very remote chance of a vaccine causing a serious injury or death.

The safety of vaccines is always being monitored. For more information, visit: www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/.

This information is based on the MMR VIS.

The risks are less than the risks of driving to the doctor's office.
 
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