I never suggested you were a liar. I believe you the one that was suggesting I was.
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That would be a lie. If you say you will, you do.
That is why I say "plan to" or we are going to "try to" do something.
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Scott Downey
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You should follow what James in scripture says then, Lord willing we will go fishing all weekend. When you dont do it that way, your assuming control over future situations you don't and can't have. The future belongs to God, so scripturally you are boasting before God, all such boasting is evil.
James 4:13-17
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Do Not Boast About Tomorrow
13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit”; 14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. 15 Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that.” 16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.
I also plan to do things every single day, I set goals. I have to consider God in the equation, and do not always consciously do so, I admit that is a failing of mine, but I also do often ask Him or tell Him I want to go do X thing, would like to do this or that, so I also acknowledge God in my choices.
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No, I do not believe you a liar. Sorry if it sounded that way.
I am saying that your comment was wrong. You assumed that the DOE lied to get people vaccinated. This was because I did not go into detail about DOE policy (they neither encourage or discourage medical procedures).
I was just trying to clarify. I did not want more conspiracy theories springing up.
Ok. Misunderstanding. I am good.
This whole issue is getting crazy. As the pro vax Doc I listened to on radio said, govt needs to stop trying to force vaccine, stop trying to silence opposition, and answer the questions, even the hard ones. He said more people will get vaxed if they have the truth than if they feel the opposing view is being silenced rather than debated.
One doc who did animal tests on an earlier failed mRNA vaccine, failed due to danger not effectiveness, says he will instantly become pro vax if anyone will answer his questions about what they did to mitigate the problems that caused the failure in the earlier animal testing. He says instead of answering his questions, they try to pretend those trials never happened.
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We can look up the trials, but the government does not do them. The pharmaceutical companies conduct trials for their vacvine (so we have several trials).
In the US each company did animal trials. For Phifer, look up their trials (there were no negative effects). You can do the same for Moderna and JJ.
You can also look up trials in children. They have Been open some time.
The conspiracy is that the US government is keeping this hush. It is out there on reputable sites.
The Govt is working with social media to silence opposing view. White house admitted that. Spend the effort educating and not silencing.
Maybe. I do not do the news or social media.
That said, sometimes the opposing view is just stupid and needs silencing (sometimes the opposing view spreads false information that costs other people their lives.....like the guy that did not get the vaccine and died, begging for it).
The problem with defining freedom of speech as "allow truth and lies" is too many mistakes the lies for truth.
Many of you (anti-vax) have done that on this board. But oro-vax have done great same, perhaps to a lesser extent.
You don't further truth by censorship. If your point is right, win the debate in the open.
I don't know of any antivax misinformation on here.
There is a video that goes away as soon as it comes up of a mother that is pleading with other moms not to let their kids get vaxed because her son immediately began having seizures and blood clots after vax. Another pleading not to because her daughter is now a vegetable because of vax. Both sides have their legitimate horror stories. Govt needs to do the risk modeling and transparently discuss it. Unless recently done, they have not done risk modeling on these vaxes.
I copied this off of one of the Canadian fb pages that has yet to be removed, they’re too busy taking ours down I guess. Anyway:
Covid vaccine
If you are being forced to Vax in order to keep your job, here's a great way to handle it.
The secret is NOT to refuse it…
A friend in the NHS is being pressured to take the jib.
‘I write with regard to the matter of potential covid vaccine and my desire to be fully informed and appraised of ALL facts before going ahead.
I’d be most grateful if you could please provide the following information, in accordance with statutory legal requirements:
1. Can you please advise me of the approved legal status of any vaccine and if it is experimental?
2. Can you please provide details and assurances that the vaccine has been fully, independently and rigorously tested against control groups and the subsequent outcomes of those tests?
3. Can you please advise of the full list of contents of the vaccine I am to receive and if any are toxic to the body?
4. Can you please fully advise of all the adverse reactions associated with this vaccine since it’s introduction?
5. Can you please confirm that the vaccine you are advocating is NOT ‘experimental mRNA gene altering therapy’?
6. Can you please confirm that I will not be under any duress from yourselves as my employers, in compliance with the Nuremberg Code?
7. Can you please advise me of the likely risk of fatality, should I be unfortunate to contract Covid 19 and the likelihood of recovery?
Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but with certain conditions - namely that:
1. You confirm that I will suffer no harm.
2. Following acceptance of this, the offer must be signed by a fully qualified doctor who will take full legal and financial responsibility for any injuries occurring to myself, and/or from any interactions by authorized personnel regarding these procedures.
3. In the event that I should have to decline the offer of vaccination, please confirm that it will not compromise my position and that I will not suffer prejudice and discrimination as a result?
I would also advise that my inalienable rights are reserved.’
The point being though, is that they CANNOT provide that information but you’ve NOT refused…
Covid vaccine
If you are being forced to Vax in order to keep your job, here's a great way to handle it.
The secret is NOT to refuse it…
A friend in the NHS is being pressured to take the jib.
‘I write with regard to the matter of potential covid vaccine and my desire to be fully informed and appraised of ALL facts before going ahead.
I’d be most grateful if you could please provide the following information, in accordance with statutory legal requirements:
1. Can you please advise me of the approved legal status of any vaccine and if it is experimental?
2. Can you please provide details and assurances that the vaccine has been fully, independently and rigorously tested against control groups and the subsequent outcomes of those tests?
3. Can you please advise of the full list of contents of the vaccine I am to receive and if any are toxic to the body?
4. Can you please fully advise of all the adverse reactions associated with this vaccine since it’s introduction?
5. Can you please confirm that the vaccine you are advocating is NOT ‘experimental mRNA gene altering therapy’?
6. Can you please confirm that I will not be under any duress from yourselves as my employers, in compliance with the Nuremberg Code?
7. Can you please advise me of the likely risk of fatality, should I be unfortunate to contract Covid 19 and the likelihood of recovery?
Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but with certain conditions - namely that:
1. You confirm that I will suffer no harm.
2. Following acceptance of this, the offer must be signed by a fully qualified doctor who will take full legal and financial responsibility for any injuries occurring to myself, and/or from any interactions by authorized personnel regarding these procedures.
3. In the event that I should have to decline the offer of vaccination, please confirm that it will not compromise my position and that I will not suffer prejudice and discrimination as a result?
I would also advise that my inalienable rights are reserved.’
The point being though, is that they CANNOT provide that information but you’ve NOT refused…
I would pray on my hands & knees for risk modeling! To date (unless mistaken) I’ve not seen any risk modeling. Please please prove me wrong.
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Can you provided that link?
Sure you do. We do not allow Mormons to teach in our church.
The problem comes in when we allow people to mislead other people for fear of violating free speech.
It would be different if those stating the false materials would be held responsible. But right now people think "free-speech" means saying what one wants without accountability.
The families of those anti-vax people who died of covid should be able to sue people who spread anti-vax propaganda.
People get caught up in agendas and forget there are people involved.
Suppose the kid who begged for the vaccine as he was dying of covid called you up right before he died and let you know the reason he declined the vaccination was your statements. How would you feel? Would you care? Or is he just a number to be ignored because he doesn't fir the anti-vax agenda?
Canadian Vaccine Deaths and Reactions
This one is private, but when you hit the join, it clears right away.
Canadian Deaths and Adverse Reactions-The Phoenix
Public-He rose to start another group after getting pulled the first time. None of these groups will come up if you do a search by topic, those are shadow banned, but if you put in the exact name……..if you have a problem I can come up with more.
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Just saying you would pray for the dying kid, were he to have taken your advise, would not really help the kid, @Wingman68
You need to be more careful about the propaganda you swallow (stop being a sheeple, start being a little more independent and a little less easily assimilated).
An honest person would learn the good and the bad of either side.
You need to be more careful about the propaganda you swallow (stop being a sheeple, start being a little more independent and a little less easily assimilated).
An honest person would learn the good and the bad of either side.
You can’t step away from your agenda for five minutes. How about this? I’ll remove my prayers from your post, & try, very hard, to ignore you, since I can’t block a mod.
You are the one who indicated "praying", yet you accuse me of provoking you???
That's more than just a bit hypocritical.
If you were not saying you would pray for the dead kid (he has already died) then I take it you object to my insistence that Mormons should not teach in real churches.
Mormons claim to be Christians - and the World agrees. But they are NOT. They do not worship the One True God. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Jon, Jon, Jon. I’ve seen many friends leave this building. I don’t plan to be one of them, but one never knows, do they?! Cheers.
Who cares? Like with the vaccine I believe people should be able to make their own choices.
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