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Was Judas Born-Again and Then Lost?
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SavedByGrace
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So when satan was in Judas, he could not have been anywhere else. He is not omnipresent! Can you see how this cannot be literal
Who said satan was everywhere? Do you accept inspired text that he came into Judas or not?
Satan cannot do possession?You do believe some nonsense
SavedByGrace
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Not literally. It means that he controlled him
SavedByGrace
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Demons
You appear to be equating our future bodily redemption with the phrase "made perfect." In my opinion that is an invalid equation.
Why? Because the spirits enrolled in the General Assembly have already, past tense, been made perfect, yet have not undergone our future bodily redemption.
The question is what is new about the New Covenant, and how did it replace the Old Covenant. Why did the OT Saints have to wait to be made perfect?
The answers to these questions can be found in post # 106.
he entered into Him
So satan cannot do possession?
SavedByGrace
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I can't argue any more on this. if this is what you believe, then it is for you.
SavedByGrace
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Tell me this, IF the devil himself, who is a personal being, were to actually "enter" a person, then he can only ever be in this one person. This means that he will not be able to "possess" anyone else during this time. Or, do you think that the devil can be everywhere at the same time, and omnipresent like God?
14 And Jehovah God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, cursed art thou above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Gen 3:15
He was every whit 'the seed of the serpent' as the others that bruised our Savior:
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
47 He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear them not, because ye are not of God. Jn 8
33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell? Mt 23
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said unto them, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Mt 3
38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. Mt 13
5 They have dealt corruptly with him, they are not his children, it is their blemish; They are a perverse and crooked generation.
20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: For they are a very perverse generation, Children in whom is no faithfulness. Dt 32
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonah the prophet: Mt 12
15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Gen 3:15
He was every whit 'the seed of the serpent' as the others that bruised our Savior:
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
47 He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear them not, because ye are not of God. Jn 8
33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell? Mt 23
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said unto them, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Mt 3
38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. Mt 13
5 They have dealt corruptly with him, they are not his children, it is their blemish; They are a perverse and crooked generation.
20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: For they are a very perverse generation, Children in whom is no faithfulness. Dt 32
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonah the prophet: Mt 12
I think you make a whoooole lot of conclusions on your own when there's actually not enough info to do that.
SavedByGrace
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then why not correct me from the Bible?
Satan will be in the Antichrist directly, correct?
SavedByGrace
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The "Anti-Christ" according to many, is not personal, but the world system that opposes the God of the Bible. I am unsure on this.
Question: Did Pilate do this or did those under his command do it?:
1 Now there were some present at that very season who told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. Lu 13
Did Satan do this or did those under his command do it?:
3 And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. Lu 22
SavedByGrace
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maybe you have answered this yourself
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