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What does "The Limited Atonement" actually proclaim? What are the Scriptural Proofs?

Silverhair

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@Silverhair



Heaven, Eternal life, thats the promised inheritance for him and his seed. Gal 3

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

Thats why he looked for a heavenly country Heb 11 16

16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

Thats why he was heir of the world , the new world Rom 4:13

For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

So by the view you have been presenting all Jews born through the line of Abraham should be saved. But as you just pointed out in your post it is only those that believe in God that will be heirs of God.

the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Even when you try to put forward your errant view you actually prove what I have been pointing out to you. One is only a child of God through faith not by natural birth.
 

Brightfame52

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So by the view you have been presenting all Jews born through the line of Abraham should be saved. But as you just pointed out in your post it is only those that believe in God that will be heirs of God.

the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Even when you try to put forward your errant view you actually prove what I have been pointing out to you. One is only a child of God through faith not by natural birth.
You dont understand these matters
 

Silverhair

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You dont understand these matters

A rather bold comment from someone that has not even made the attempt to respond to a prior question.

I asked you this in a previous post and you just ignored it so I will ask it again.

What do you not understand about these verses or better yet what do you think they say? And perhaps you can explain why you think what you do.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

You keep saying a person is an heir of God before they believe but the bible disagrees with you so point out what I can't see.

Those verses do not leave any doubt. We are not heirs of God through any human means but only through faith in Him.

I am not depending upon what some man has told me the bible says I am depending upon what the Holy Spirit has said.
 

Brightfame52

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A rather bold comment from someone that has not even made the attempt to respond to a prior question.

I asked you this in a previous post and you just ignored it so I will ask it again.

What do you not understand about these verses or better yet what do you think they say? And perhaps you can explain why you think what you do.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

You keep saying a person is an heir of God before they believe but the bible disagrees with you so point out what I can't see.

Those verses do not leave any doubt. We are not heirs of God through any human means but only through faith in Him.

I am not depending upon what some man has told me the bible says I am depending upon what the Holy Spirit has said.
You dont understand these matters, I have been explaining my pov and you dont understand. Salvation/Eternal life is promised to Heirs, Christ died exclusively for them ratifying to them their eternal inheritance Heb 9:15

15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

An inheritance is for specifically named heirs, not for the whole world
 

Brightfame52

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@Silverhair

You keep saying a person is an heir of God before they believe but the bible disagrees with you so point out what I can't see.

Yes, as was Isaac, a child of promise/heir . Was he an heir before he became a believer, by the purpose and promise of God ? Yes or no

Gen 15:4

And, behold, the word of the Lord came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

Now he was heir but he wasnt born a believer, he wasnt born with Faith. Now this being an heir isnt natural, its spiritual, and has to do with eternal life and salvation
 
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