Featured What if brother Paul Washer were to preach in your church?

No, as those who are the eelct will always be getting saved!

 

We are elected by God in Christ from all eternity, but still need to eceive Christ thru faith to make that the sure election.
And good works accompany our salvation, not cause/part of getting saved!

 

Yes, no longer using the KJV 1611 checker!

 

Not that, but that they believe in a false Gosepl per him, and he does see many lost due to just having a "one time confession"
He equates holding to free grace same as preaching easy believism...

 

Ok, I know I'm walking into a merry-go-round here, but what scriptures speak of "really saved" or "biblical mandate that we shall be..."

If it's really a biblical mandate, point to the biblical location, please

 

From our perspective, they are different things. From God's perspective? I don't see much difference.

 

Interesting, could you share the difference between our perspective and God's perspective from His word?

 

Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Just a guess

 

Another one...from a human perspective, Joseph must have been a terrible person...but that's not God's perspective about it

Genesis 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

 

Isaiah 46:10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’

God knows the beginning and the end of everything. We don't. Before any of us repents, God had already saved us.

 

Ok this in no way explains the difference in perspective on salvation.

 

You do not know the commands of God to obey the "Law o Christ?" To continually be walking and abiding in Jesus, filled continually in /by the Holy Spirt, in order not to do the lusts of the flesh?

 

Of course I do....
You stated that it SHALL happen, which makes God and His command seem retarded.

Who would command something that's inevitable?

 

God knows us from eternity past. If God elects us before the foundation of the world, in His eyes we're saved, even though we haven't been born yet. I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

 

God knows fully and completly the entire "system" e used to save sinnrs, bu we all are still fuzzy in some areas on it!

 

Ok here is how you answer this question:

1. Put here the view point of man on salvation. Please include scripture if you have that support or make it clear it is just your opinion.

2. Put here the view point of God on Salvation. Please include scripture if you have that support it or make it clear it is just your opinion.

3. Give a clear explanation here of the distinct difference of the two view points using your previous points for support.

Please break down your use of scripture in a manner that makes clear your though process on how the scripture you use to support each point makes your case.

 

See post 116

 

Sorry, but I'm not in a theology class final.

 

then your claim is unsupported and erroneous

 

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