What Stand Does BJU Take?

[Rippon]

I didn't know James White was the final authority on what was KJVP. I wonder what credentials he has to make himself the ultimate arbitrator of this subject.

No one is the ultimate arbitrar or authority on the subject. But Dr. has done his homework on the subject.
He knows more than most. He has debated a number of KJVO'ers --some several times.

You have his book(as I do) and are aware that he knows his stuff. I'd say he is an excellent evaluator of the subject.

 

[annsni]

No one is the ultimate arbitrar or authority on the subject. But Dr. has done his homework on the subject.
He knows more than most. He has debated a number of KJVO'ers --some several times.

You have his book(as I do) and are aware that he knows his stuff. I'd say he is an excellent evaluator of the subject.

He definitely is and I really appreciate his work but I don't think he has the final say on what KJVP or KJVO is as Evan is asserting. I'd say that John has a bit of wisdom in this realm too.

 

[John of Japan]

Did you write a book on the KJV movement?

Oh, wait, so it's writing a book that qualifies one to be the authoritative definer of a subject? Wow, that's good to know! I'll go right now and write my book. (I guess it doesn't have to be a good and accurate book, just a book, right?)

Oh, wait, I did write a book on translation methodology for my students and for when I serve as a Bible translation consultant--but that's just in pdf form. But I have written and presented in conferences two academic papers on Bible translation. Do those things count? Huh? Did I pass your list of qualifications? Huh? Huh?

 

[evangelist6589]

Oh, wait, so it's writing a book that qualifies one to be the authoritative definer of a subject? Wow, that's good to know! I'll go right now and write my book. (I guess it doesn't have to be a good and accurate book, just a book, right?)

Oh, wait, I did write a book on translation methodology for my students and for when I serve as a Bible translation consultant--but that's just in pdf form. But I have written and presented in conferences two academic papers on Bible translation. Do those things count? Huh? Did I pass your list of qualifications? Huh? Huh?

Excuse me?? Are you calling me a geek?

Name the movie from 1984 on my mind at this time!

 

[evangelist6589]

Oh, wait, so it's writing a book that qualifies one to be the authoritative definer of a subject? Wow, that's good to know! I'll go right now and write my book. (I guess it doesn't have to be a good and accurate book, just a book, right?)

Oh, wait, I did write a book on translation methodology for my students and for when I serve as a Bible translation consultant--but that's just in pdf form. But I have written and presented in conferences two academic papers on Bible translation. Do those things count? Huh? Did I pass your list of qualifications? Huh? Huh?

Rat smart phone. It says the word "geek" yet when viewed in a web browser on my computer the word does not show. Strange... Sorry for my reply.

 

[John of Japan]

Excuse me?? Are you calling me a geek?

I will only answer this if you can find a definition of geek by someone who has written a book on the subject.

Name the movie from 1984 on my mind at this time!

Don't be juvenile.

 

[John of Japan]

Rat smart phone. It says the word "geek" yet when viewed in a web browser on my computer the word does not show. Strange... Sorry for my reply.

Not a problem.

 

[banana]

James white is great

 

[HankD]

Let James White define what a KJVP school is and not you.

Really Evan, when you have translated and published the entire NT, when you have left all to go to the gentiles across the seas then your advice to JoJ might have some authority to bolster it.

HankD

 

[Yeshua1]

If you'll read the thread from the start, you'll find out that I've already acknowledged this. However, I contend that simply requiring the KJV in the classroom as they do does not prove they are KJVO or KJVP.

In the end, if you are tryIng to prove that BJU is KJVP, your statement is meaningless until you define your term. What do you consider to be KJVP? If you classify BJU as KJVP, why do they use the critical Greek text on which almost all modern versions are based?

A school cannot be KJVO and have/use the critical greek text, that would b like a Yankee fan supporting red sox!

 

[Yeshua1]

Great. I asked for your definition, but if you want to give White's, that's fine with me.

Actually, though, I believe I'm better qualified than White in bibliology. It's my specialty, having translated the entire NT, having been published, etc. And I have just as many credible advanced degrees as White--namely one. (But far be it from me to toot my own horn. I'm just answering your your supercilious putdown of me. )

Are you a calvinist, as that is the main "expert" Even seems to want!
asn't the Nasb translated into Japanese, and what was your text sources used, and hardest passages to gt cross into Japanese?

 

[Yeshua1]

Are you a calvinist, as that is the main "expert" Even seems to want!
asn't the Nasb translated into Japanese, and what was your text sources used, and hardest passages to gt cross into Japanese?

Which part are we disagreeing with here?

 

[McCree79]

A school cannot be KJVO and have/use the critical greek text, that would b like a Yankee fan supporting red sox!

Well, that would be logical. But the cultic sect of KJVO does not care what Greek is used becuase the KJV is the actual Word of God. As Peter Ruckman would say, the KJV corrects the Greek.

I do not believe that BJU is cultic KJVO, or even KJVO. But to those who are of thr cultic sect,....such has Ruckman, Riplinger, Anderson. They will look at the Greek, but what it says is not as important as what is in the KJV.

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[Yeshua1]

Well, that would be logical. But the cultic sect of KJVO does not care what Greek is used becuase the KJV is the actual Word of God. As Peter Ruckman would say, the KJV corrects the Greek.

I do not believe that BJU is cultic KJVO, or even KJVO. But to those who are of thr cultic sect,....such has Ruckman, Riplinger, Anderson. They will look at the Greek, but what it says is not as important as what is in the KJV.

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To believe that ANY translation can be used to "correct": the original languages texts is stupid and ignorant!

 

[McCree79]

To believe that ANY translation can be used to "correct": the original languages texts is stupid and ignorant!

Exactly

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[Yeshua1]

Exactly

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Know thoe advocatingMajority/ctitica texts have earned phd in textual criticism, howmany in KJVO do?

 

[TCassidy]

Which part are we disagreeing with here?

The part where you continue to disrespect the Baptist Board by refusing to proofread and correct your spelling, grammar, and formatting errors.

 

[John of Japan]

James white is great

James White makes a bunch of mistakes in his book.

 

[John of Japan]

Are you a calvinist, as that is the main "expert" Even seems to want!

He's an odd bird, always urging Calvinist authors on people, but making a non-Calvinist his goto guy for evangelism.

asn't the Nasb translated into Japanese, and what was your text sources used, and hardest passages to gt cross into Japanese?

The main conservative Japanese translation was done using the NASB principles and original texts, but was not translated from the NASB per se.

Our source text into Japanese was the TR, due to popular demand (my position is Byz. priority). As to what texts were the most difficult, in general it was Romans and Revelation. There were many specific texts that would take a whole book to explain.

 

[Rob_BW]

He's an odd bird, always urging Calvinist authors on people, but making a non-Calvinist his goto guy for evangelism.
The main conservative Japanese translation was done using the NASB principles and original texts, but was not translated from the NASB per se.

Our source text into Japanese was the TR, due to popular demand (my position is Byz. priority). As to what texts were the most difficult, in general it was Romans and Revelation. There were many specific texts that would take a whole book to explain.

Did you ever find any terms or concepts that were more easily translated from Greek to Japanese than they were from Greek to English?