You forgot that he blames globalists, multi-culturalists, and social justice warriors, liberals, progressives, Obama, and looney judges, although you did mention others. 
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What went wrong for Trump in North Korea? Everything
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atpollard
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They are an oppressive totalitarian dictatorship run by a literally mentally ill individual who murders family members due to paranoia about plots against him. He is convinced that North Korea will be overthrown, like Lybia was, unless it has a WMD and Missile that can threaten the United States mainland.
Given that dynamic, there is ZERO chance of NK actually giving up its nukes.
May I suggest that you are the one who is as off-kilter as can be.
To support me earlier claim I offer as evidence your last two sentences which are as bizarre as it gets.
Please furnish proof for your claim.
You are not being truthful. I do not see any evidence that Trump supporters are Paul-haters.
You and EW&F are made for each other.
I guess I am more patient than you. I am willing to interact with non-Truthers such as yourself.
Not exclusively an inside job since it was controlled so much by Mossad --yes, Israeli Intelligence.
You are totally misguided.
There weren't any planes that did damage on 9/11.
In all three locations there was no evidence of airplanes.
If you keep on following the old official narrative the ones really responsible will not be brought to justice. Too many Americans have not been woken up to reality concerning 9/11. The veil needs to be lifted.
I am entirely against the Koran and the slow-motion Muslim invasion of Western Europe, Canada and the United States (Australia too). However, no Muslims were involved with 9/11. The Middle Eastern men were Israeli.
Baptist Board post of the millennium!
I would want to see Dough Boy stop trying to become Nuclear power, to stop missile program, and Trump approach working much better than Obama ever did! Ditto for Iran situation also!
You made the original statement without proof. You're up.
"Rand is a Trump supporter as is his dad Ron."
You are delusional.
You and many others need to do quite a bit of research to get up to speed.
I've been following this story through the daily print edition of the Wall Street Journal. As I understand it the talks are still on. But,
- South Korea's Moon is playing his own game and may not be giving Trump good intel.
- Trump is looking for the denuclearization of the North.
- Kim is looking for the demilitarization of the South. IOW, the withdrawal of UN (US) forces.
atpollard
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Respectfully, I know people who were in NYC and saw the planes. I saw the second plane on live TV coverage. I studied Structures at NJIT under one of the Engineers that worked on the Twin Towers. I can tell you EXACTLY why they failed. They were designed to sustain an impact from the largest plane in service at the time they were designed (because the Empire State Building was struck by a plane). The Boeing 747 was developed after the design of the twin towers. They were still able to withstand the impact due to generous safety margins, but the 747 carried MUCH more jet fuel than the plane that the tower was designed for. The fire from the jet fuel exceeded the fireproofing provided. That is why there was no immediate collapse, but rather they eventually fell after burning for a while.
To say that there were no planes involved is nonsense.
Trump does have a power card to play. If Kim does not negotiate in good faith, Trump can tighten economic sanctions on the DPRK and increase military pressure without firing a shot. North Korea cannot continue to fund its nuclear research. The United States can bring Kim and his regime to its knees and destabilize China at the same time. The last thing China wants is a humanitarian crisis in North Korea that hits critical mass. Simultaneously we should be increasing our naval and air patrols around China's illegal, man-made islands in international shipping lanes. It takes intestinal fortitude to stare down Kim and Xi Jinping. They will both make a lot of noise but I doubt it will ever lead to a shooting war. If it did, neither country is in a favorable position.
"John Skilling, the World Trade Center's chief structural engineer, said the buildings were designed to absorb the impact of a Boeing 707 (not much smaller than the 767s that actually struck them). In January 2001, World Trade Center construction manager Frank A. Demartini said:
The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because the structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door --this intense grid --and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.
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Taken from Truth Is A Lonely Warrior by James Perloff (page 175)
I consider “bizzare” someone’s devotion to Q Annon.
Continuing with Perloff:
"To melt, steel must reach a temperature of about 2800 degrees Fahrenheit. Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1500 degrees, and most experts concur that the World Trade Center flames probably didn't exceed 500-600 degrees. Exposure to such flames wouldn't melt the buildings' steel any more than your stove's gas flames will melt your pots and pans.
What would cause steel to melt would be detonation of the military explosive thermite, which reaches 4500 degrees in seconds.
It would also explain why the building's concrete pulverized into dust instead of falling in large chunks.
With over 1,700 building professionals in its ranks, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (www.ae911truth.org) has documented overwhelming evidence that the Twin Towers' collapse resulted from controlled demolition..."
(taken from pages 175 and 176 of James Perloff's book.
And how does one account for the same kind of collapse for Building Seven for which no one claims a plane touched?
All three buildings tumbled down neatly into their own footprints.
"To melt, steel must reach a temperature of about 2800 degrees Fahrenheit. Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1500 degrees, and most experts concur that the World Trade Center flames probably didn't exceed 500-600 degrees. Exposure to such flames wouldn't melt the buildings' steel any more than your stove's gas flames will melt your pots and pans.
What would cause steel to melt would be detonation of the military explosive thermite, which reaches 4500 degrees in seconds.
It would also explain why the building's concrete pulverized into dust instead of falling in large chunks.
With over 1,700 building professionals in its ranks, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (www.ae911truth.org) has documented overwhelming evidence that the Twin Towers' collapse resulted from controlled demolition..."
(taken from pages 175 and 176 of James Perloff's book.
And how does one account for the same kind of collapse for Building Seven for which no one claims a plane touched?
All three buildings tumbled down neatly into their own footprints.
You meant Anon.
A 747 did not hit the WTC centers. It as a B767 and a B757. Here is a comparison between the B767, the larger of the two aircraft, and a B 707 which was the plane used for design of the WTC Towers:
Boeing 707 - 767 Comparison
Leslie E. Robertson - Chief Engineer of the World Trade Center
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.
The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet.
The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet.
The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.
The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.
The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel.
The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.
The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s,
The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.
In all the likely variations of an accidental impact with the WTC, the Boeing 707 would be traveling faster. In terms of impact damage, this higher speed would more than compensate for the slightly lower weight of the Boeing 707.
In conclusion we can say that if the twin towers were designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 707, then they were necessarily designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 767.
In addition, the temperature generated from burning jet fuel is nowhere close to the temperature required to melt the structural steel used in the WTC towers. Kevin R. Ryan, laboratory director at Environmental Health Laboratories Inc., a subsidiary of Underwriters Laboratories Inc., the consumer-product safety testing giant, was fired for providing his assessment::
Ryan wrote that the institute's preliminary reports suggest the WTC's supports were probably exposed to fires no hotter than 500 degrees -- only half the 1,100-degree temperature needed to forge steel, Ryan said. That's also much cooler, he wrote, than the 3,000 degrees needed to melt bare steel with no fire-proofing.
"This story just does not add up," Ryan wrote in his e-mail to Frank Gayle, deputy chief of the institute's metallurgy division, who is playing a prominent role in the agency investigation. "If steel from those buildings did soften or melt, I'm sure we can all agree that this was certainly not due to jet fuel fires of any kind, let alone the briefly burning fires in those towers." [Salt Bend Tribune
I am a member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Look here for the real facts on 9/11 from Engineering professors and engineers with a lot of experience in the field. I have a MS in Engineering from Stanford and a 40 year career with a NASA contractor and Bell Labs/Bellcore/AT&T Labs, etc.
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
"Melted" Steel
Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."
FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center
Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."
FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center