When Will Obama's Wave Crash?

[Palatka51]

We had Regan and two Bush's saying for 24 years they were against abortion but where has that taken us on the abortion stoppage?

There has not been an out and out stoppage of abortion but more or less a slowing down of funding it by tax payer money. Bush's support of adult stem cell research and blocking funding of embryonic stem cell research with tax payer money has been his "Finest Hour" IMHO.
If you want a President that will over turn Roe v Wade, you'll be waiting for a very long time. First of all you need Justices that will limit RvW. For that you do need a Right to Life President.
However all the leg work for overturning RvW must be done by Congress. It is Congress that will get Justices through that will interpret the Constitution or with a liberal Congress, pass Justices that will legislate law from the bench.
It is time to get rid of this one man can change things attitude that we have these days. A President will not accomplish much if Congress is against him.
Congress should always be our focus if true change is to rule the day.

 

[tinytim]

http://www.barackobama.com/2006/06/28/call_to_renewal_keynote_address.php

There's the speech posted on his own website.

Thanks for the links, StefanM and Jamie.. I will check them out when I have a little time....


Edited to add that I checked the links out.. and I was impressed.. they were exactly what I was looking for.

 

[EdSutton]

Ed,

How did Mussolini come to power? By Coup? Or by elections?
I am aware of how Stalin came to power but Mussolini's rise is not clear to me.
BTB, I am in agreement with you again regarding the Socialist scale. It is clear that our slide toward the socialist state is and will be similar to all nations that have taken that path.

Mussolini was elected to the "Chamber of Deputies" in 1921 and was the head of the "National Fascist" Party, in a constitutional monarchy. His party, along with many backers, 'staged' a 'bloodless coup' in a "March on Rome" in 1922, and King Victor Emmanuel III named "Il Duce" the Prime Minister. He consolidated his power, and beame the effective dictator of Italy in the mid-20s.

Ed

 

[JerryL]

There has not been an out and out stoppage of abortion but more or less a slowing down of funding it by tax payer money. Bush's support of adult stem cell research and blocking funding of embryonic stem cell research with tax payer money has been his "Finest Hour" IMHO.
If you want a President that will over turn Roe v Wade, you'll be waiting for a very long time. First of all you need Justices that will limit RvW. For that you do need a Right to Life President.
However all the leg work for overturning RvW must be done by Congress. It is Congress that will get Justices through that will interpret the Constitution or with a liberal Congress, pass Justices that will legislate law from the bench.
It is time to get rid of this one man can change things attitude that we have these days. A President will not accomplish much if Congress is against him.
Congress should always be our focus if true change is to rule the day.

Conservatives controlled Congress at one time while Bush was in. What did it change?

 

[EdSutton]

Yeah, Alan Keyes keeps coming up, as comparison. I don't even remember Alan Keyes, so why is this continously brought up, ...?

You really do need to get out more!

http://www.alankeyes.com/

http://www.alankeyes.com/issues_list.php

Ambassador Keyes ran for President both in 1996 and 2000, and was 'drafted' to run for the Senate against Sen. Barack Obama in 2004, by the Illinois Republican Party, after its nominee, Jack Ryan, withdrew over a sex scandal, and they apparently could find no other viable candidate. Sen. Obama won by slightly better than 2 to 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_United_States_Senate_election,_2004

Incidentally, I voted for Amb. Keyes for President in the 2000 primary in my state. My precinct happens to have several 'black' residents, with a few of other ethnicities, other than 'American' 'white' and 'American' 'black', as well, Both Republicans and Democrats, are among the folks in my precinct, with many being farmers and neighbors of mine. Among its residents, many of both parties, are also long time close personal friends. FTR, Amb. Keyes received one vote in my precinct, in the 2000 primary.

Now you have at least heard of Ambassador Alan Keyes, who incidentally, can be found on the radio, TV, and the internet, as well.

Even though you don't get out enough.

Ed

 

[righteousdude2]

Couldn't Help Myself Ed

Notice it was a short vacation. Welcome back.

Ed

I am still watching the BB, and will comment if I feel the nudge of the Spirit. After all, this was my last post, and it amazed me just how far it has gone down the road of ideals from members.

Still on a lengthy vacation, but as the "father" of this post, I had to comment.

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :sleeping_2:

 

[Sopranette]

You really do need to get out more!

http://www.alankeyes.com/

http://www.alankeyes.com/issues_list.php

Ambassador Keyes ran for President both in 1996 and 2000, and was 'drafted' to run for the Senate against Sen. Barack Obama in 2004, by the Illinois Republican Party, after its nominee, Jack Ryan, withdrew over a sex scandal, and they apparently could find no other viable candidate. Sen. Obama won by slightly better than 2 to 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_United_States_Senate_election,_2004

Incidentally, I voted for Amb. Keyes for President in the 2000 primary in my state. My precinct happens to have several 'black' residents, with a few of other ethnicities, other than 'American' 'white' and 'American' 'black', as well, Both Republicans and Democrats, are among the folks in my precinct, with many being farmers and neighbors of mine. Among its residents, many of both parties, are also long time close personal friends. FTR, Amb. Keyes received one vote in my precinct, in the 2000 primary.

Now you have at least heard of Ambassador Alan Keyes, who incidentally, can be found on the radio, TV, and the internet, as well.

Even though you don't get out enough.

Ed

As many of you know by now, I have no life, what with growing my hair out, picking out fields to plow, and being in seclusion during my cycle. But thanks for the heads up :smilewinkgrin:

love,

Sopranette

 

[EdSutton]

As many of you know by now, I have no life, what with growing my hair out, picking out fields to plow, and being in seclusion during my cycle. But thanks for the heads up :smilewinkgrin:

love,

Sopranette

:laugh: :laugh:

But I do know a bit about picking out fields to plow. :thumbs:

Ed

 

[just-want-peace]

Conservatives controlled Congress at one time while Bush was in. What did it change?

Beg to differ; there was a Republican majority, not a conservative majority.

 

[Brother Bob]

:laugh: :laugh:

But I do know a bit about picking out fields to plow. :thumbs:

Ed

I figured you knew about the cycle also Ed...............:laugh:

BBob,

 

[EdSutton]

I figured you knew about the cycle also Ed...............:laugh:

BBob,

Yeah, I do know something about the cycle, as a matter of fact, more than one of them!

I used to ride a tri-cycle and later a bi-cycle. But I never happened to master the motor-cycle. And my child-bride happens to own a uni-cycle, that I'm not even going to try to ride. She rides it occasionally for amusement, BTW, but not me. I ain't breakin' no arm or leg, just to prove I will attempt to do something that stupid, even if I am a 'red-neck'.

Famous last words of a 'red-neck: "Hey, everybody!! Watch this!!" :laugh:

Ed

 

[JustChristian]

My thoughts as well. Except that I might say, not Maybe but, WE ARE and HE IS. :tear:

After voting GW Bush into office twice (so they say) we don't deserve much.

 

[tinytim]

And if Obama wins.. we won't get much..

 

[Aaron]

I'm surprised the Clintons haven't had him killed yet.

 

[Brother Bob]

I'm surprised the Clintons haven't had him killed yet.

That is scary talk Aaron;

BBob,

 

[Aaron]

The Clintons are scary people.

I don't think there has been a more dishonorable couple in the White House. When many people see Bill or Hillary, it just makes them sick.

Not so with Obama. I hate his politics, but he at least seems to be an honorable man.

 

[HankD]

For me it centers upon the abortion issue.

Deuteronomy 19:10 That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.


HankD​

 

[KenH]

Very understandable, HankD. For me it centers on civil liberties and foreign policy, and compared to Senators Clinton and McCain, Senator Obama wins that debate hands down with me.

 

[HankD]

Hi KenH,

Yes, I understand. We all have our priorities.

You spoke of "civil liberties" .

Apart from the Scriptures, considering the foundational documents of the founding fathers, abortion takes away each of the "unalienable rights" of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness from those destroyed while yet in the womb.

HankD

 

[Sopranette]

I get so tired of conspiricy theories. It's the hobby of people who have nothing better to do with their lives. The more wild the story, the better it is.

love,

Sopranette