You know little. What others taught me I can hardly remember, not even their names. I have been teaching others for more than 30 years.
Yes, teaching error.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
--The "one man" was Adam. Or, did you overlook that fact? By Adam all men were made sinners. By Adam all have sinned.
Not unconditionally or else this verse would teach Universalism. If you believe all men were unconditionally made sinners because of Adam's sin, you have to interpret the second half of the verse the same way and believe that all men are unconditionally made righteous by Jesus's obedience.
The correct interpretation is that all men are CONDITIONALLY made sinners when they sin as Adam sinned, and all men are conditionally made righteous when they believe as Jesus did.
But you will forever cling to error and teach it to others.
"Your father is the devil and the lusts of your father you will do..."
--You born into the devil's family and hence you must be born again, into God's family.
This does not prove we are born children of the devil. We must knowingly sin to become children of the devil. This is what is shown in the parable of the prodigal son when he "joined himself to a citizen of that country"
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
The prodigal son was not born lost, he was originally at home with his father. When he went out in sin he was joined to the citizen of that far country. I believe this represents when we become children of wrath or the devil.
I know you will disagree, no surprise at all.
Most of scripture teaches that we are born separated from God. You have miserably failed to prove otherwise.
Absolutely false and EASY to refute.
1 Pet 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now
returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
If we were born separated from God, then it could not be said we are now RETURNED to Jesus. This easily refutes your false view.
Luk 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is
alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
If we were born separated, dead in sin as you believe, then Jesus could not have said the prodigal son was alive AGAIN, but Jesus said it TWICE.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
In Romans 7 Paul describes when he learned the law and what sin was. He said the he was once ALIVE before the commandment came. If we are all born dead in sin, then Paul could not say this.
So your view is extremely EASY to refute with MUCH scripture. No problem.
That is a false accusation and you know it.
Jesus had a a body like ours. It was prone to thirst, hunger, to tire, suffer, to go through all the things that we do.
It was not prone to sin. He never though a single evil thought.
He never sinned once. He did not have sinful flesh as you say he had.
You double-talk. You say Jesus had a body like ours, but then you contradict yourself and say he did not have a body like ours.
The body is not sinful in itself. The body has desires and lusts that tug and pull toward sin, but this is not sin. Jesus had a body with lusts and desires that pulled him toward sin just like us, but he never obeyed these lusts when they would have caused him to sin.
Our body is only "sinful" when we obey it to sin.
The body tempts us, but this is not sin. We sin when we act on that temptation and obey it. Jesus never obeyed his lusts and desires when they would have caused him to sin, but he felt them exactly like we do. When he was in the wilderness he was hungry, he wanted to eat just like we would. But he refused and obeyed his Father's will.
The scriptures say Jesus could be "touched" with the "feeling of our infirmities". His body was EXACTLY like ours in every way.
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be
touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
The scriptures say Jesus was tempted in "all points" as we are, but you teach Jesus was a sort of "superman" who did not feel and experience fleshly lusts.
You DO NOT teach Jesus had the same flesh as us. This is where you greatly err.
Look, you say infants are born innocent. Then you say once they sin they acquire somehow a sin nature. How did Christ acquire that sin nature if he never sinned? Yet you are adamant that he had sinful flesh like we do. You live and breathe a contradiction. You Savior--so-called fails as a Savior, for you conjure up someone who cannot meet the standards of a Savior, because he is sinful by nature of one who has sinful flesh. This is heresy.
You are the one that says flesh is sinful. I do not believe we are born with sinful flesh, but our flesh becomes sinful when we give in to fleshly lusts and desires.
The word "sinful" is simply an adjective that describes someone who has sinned. Until you sin you cannot be sinful, just as you cannot be "obese" or "fat" until you gain too much weight.
One of your pet passages. It is taken out of context. It is speaking of Israel and predestination. It is a total non sequitor.
I am quite aware Paul was speaking of election, nevertheless, he clearly told us that Jacob and Esau had done no evil in their mother's womb. They had NOT sinned with Adam in the garden as you falsely teach.
By taking Rom.9:11 out of context you have scripture contradicting scripture. You unbelief in Romans 5:12-19 is astounding. It teaches that we are born sinners and you won't accept it.
LOL, you assume that we are born guilty of Adam's sin. :laugh:
It never occurs to you that Original Sin is false doctrine. Goes right over your head.
Mary was a direct descendent of David; so was Joseph and many others.
How did Peter and John, and then Nathaniel know that Christ was the Messiah? One of the factors was his descent from David--one of them. There was also the miracles that he did; the way he spoke--with authority not like the scribes, and other reasons. The fact that he had the right lineage was ONE reason.
He was a PHYSICAL descendant of David, he inherited David's DNA from Mary. The Jews understood he was a physical descendant. The angel that spoke to Mary called David Jesus's father.
Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of
his father David:
You must constantly deny direct statements in scripture, you must deny that Jesus's was David's descendant because you believe the medieval superstition that sin is inherited physically.
Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Even more scripture refuting your superstitious belief. Jesus was "made" of the "seed" of David. Couldn't be plainer, but you deny the truth over and over.
He had a body LIKE unto ours. You fail to read all the scripture. The Bible does not contradict itself.
Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
--What part of "like unto his brethren" do you not understand?
The Bible does not contradict itself.
He was conceived of the Holy Ghost; made LIKE unto his brethren. Obviously he was not a sinner, made of sinful flesh like you and I.
Rom.9:11 proves nothing.
Read Eph.2:1-3. We are also called "children of wrath," "children of disobedience." Both Psalm 51:5 and 58:3 work against your beliefs.
You need to examine your position. Seriously.
What is the difference between the "flesh" of a corpse, and your "flesh"?
Please explain. Are they both sinful?
No, Jesus had "the same" flesh and blood as us. He was "made" of the "seed" of David. Jesus inherited David's (and Adam's) DNA from Mary his mother.
You can deny till the end of time, there is a volume of scripture that easily shows you are in error.
Believe what you want.
