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Why I will not accept Joe Biden as president
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Do you believe God intended for the colonies to break away from the motherland?
I believe that God ordained that rebel sinners could start an unjust war and create a different government.
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So, God installed Hitler, and Stalin? Tell that to the Jews, and others.
ntchristian
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God did not choose Biden. He cannot choose evil. Anyone who can approve of something as hideous as partial-birth abortion is a demoniac. God would never choose such a person to lead a nation. Satan would, but God would not.
Just as God installed Nebuchadnezzar and the Chaldeans.
Habakkuk 1:5-12
“Look among the nations, and see; wonder and be astounded. For I am doing a work in your days that you would not believe if told. For behold, I am raising up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, who march through the breadth of the earth, to seize dwellings not their own. They are dreaded and fearsome; their justice and dignity go forth from themselves. Their horses are swifter than leopards, more fierce than the evening wolves; their horsemen press proudly on. Their horsemen come from afar; they fly like an eagle swift to devour. They all come for violence, all their faces forward. They gather captives like sand. At kings they scoff, and at rulers they laugh. They laugh at every fortress, for they pile up earth and take it. Then they sweep by like the wind and go on, guilty men, whose own might is their god!” Are you not from everlasting, O Lord my God, my Holy One? We shall not die. O Lord, you have ordained them as a judgment, and you, O Rock, have established them for reproof.
Do you think you are any better in God's eyes?
Romans 3:10-18
As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
Yes, God ordained Hitler, Stalin, Donald Trump and Joe Biden as well as the Iranian Imams and North Korean dictator. This does not mean God created sin, evil and rebellion. It means God allows it and uses it to accomplish His Sovereign plan.
Then God cannot choose you nor me since we are both evil and wretched sinners.
God chose Nebuchadnezzar and the Chaldeans as I showed you in Habakkuk 1.
God is not the author of sin. He has, however, ordained such rebellion against His moral laws and He uses sinners to accomplish His Sovereign plan. If He didn't, you and I would be burning in hell this very moment.
We cannot just ignore Scripture when it suits us.
The Bible tells us to obey secular governments insofar as obedience is not disobedience to God. Those words in the NT saying that these governments are put in place by God were written under a paganism and secular government that approved of abortion.
Yet God still puts these ungodly governments in place for His own purposes. He did this with the Trump administration and it looks like He will do this with a Biden administration.
So we have to be careful not to change Scripture by exchanging God for Satan in a passage simply to suit our desires. God, not Satan, is sovereign over these things.
I do not understand how Trump-Christians can easily see evil in the DNC but are blind when it comes to their own party.
Just exactly who are the "Trump Christians" and what specifically are they blind to?
1) Christians who applaud Donald Trump while ignoring his sinful behavior.
2) They are blind to Romans 13 and it's requirement when a leader they despise has been placed in leadership by God's divine ordination.
I refer to Trump-Christians as Christians who support the Trump administration as God ordained but turn their backs on Scripture when God puts into power a different administration.
Perhaps "fair weather Christians" would be a better wording given that there were also Christians who viewed the Trump administration the same way.
Exactly what sins has Trump been guilty of in the past FIVE (5) years?
Or maybe they just view what you are calling "God ordained" differently. Be careful not to judge based on your assumptions.
I doubt it. Romans 13 states that "there is no power but from God; the powers that be are ordained by God."
The view that the powers that be are ordained by Satan just does not resonate with Scripture.
This is one issue with a gospel centered on social justice (issues like racism, abortion, slavery, poverty, ect) rather than Christ Himself. The result looks more like us than God.
His first was declaring that he has nothing of which to repent.
His tweets have been godless despite him claiming to be a Christian.
He has demeaned and bullied all those who oppose him.
He has openly lied.
All humans are sinners. Those who refuse to repent are in direct opposition to God.
Let us look to Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith. Let God raise up and cast down leaders in secular government.
Correct. As I presented in Habakkuk, God ordains all things, both good and evil. We see in Job that God ordains the evil that Satan brings upon Job. Satan could do nothing except by God allowing it.
I also think of David's reaction to king Saul.
I think we, in general, have a lower view of God (or at least a tendency to separate God from our politics).
God didn't put Biden in as President of the USA, man is trying to through cheating and lying and stomping on the divinely instituted Constitutional authority guaranteeing a free and fair election by We the People that is the rightful authority of this country. I am waiting for God to correct this attempted evil upon us. Their judgment for resisting couldn't come soon enough as far I'm concerned...
The King's of Israel were God's anointed. I'm not sure we can make a connection to the US. However, we can recognize that God is Sovereign over every molecule in His creation. There is no rogue molecule that is beyond His Sovereign ordination.
I just consider why David considered Saul (given by God, chosen by Israel) to be respected even as Saul was trying to kill him. Saul was not God's choice of a king, yet he was still placed by God in that position (for God's purposes).
That is the only correlation I can think of.
The best, however, is that Paul wrote Romans to a people being ruled by a pagan government, telling them God had ordained that empire for that time.
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