Wife Swap

[Benjamin]

This post makes no sense, doesn't come close to resembling a reply to any of the points of which I made. I edited that post for a reason, you might need to try doing so yourself. BB and I are very good with one another, unlike his replies to you. But thanks for the concern.
Your post is exaggerated, untruthful etc...not to mention you didn't reply to my post #2 TO YOU. Not that I care

Bolding by me;

If you would like to further discuss the bolded part (accusation) or anything esle concerning what I didn't reply to feel free to PM me.

 

[jilphn1022]

I am so surprised...

that so many BB members watch TV let alone Wife Swap.:laugh: Iwould think most of our free time would be on this fine inspiring messageboard.
By the way, I have never heard of this TV show or have I never watched it.

 

[Salty]

that so many BB members watch TV let alone Wife Swap.:laugh: Iwould think most of our free time would be on this fine inspiring messageboard.
By the way, I have never heard of this TV show or have I never watched it.

Some of us can multi task:type:

 

[Benjamin]

I saw the episode you are talking about. I thought it was a good illustration of some of the problems with both extremes of Christianity. On one hand, you had a very conservative family who felt that the only point of existence for women is to make their husbands' food and proudly proclaimed that they "brainwash" their children, and on the other hand, you have parents that seemed to encourage their daughters to get into inappropriate relationships, and were reluctant to say that if they "made a mistake" before marriage that it would be sin.

This was one of their funniest episodes. My favorite part was where they debated the meaning of doulos (or at least debated how to pronounce it). I was also a little shocked when the one dad told the swapped wife that he was proud about how he had been brainwashing his children since birth. He totally came off like a cult leader. And then the next day the wife brought it up to his kids what he said, and you could see it shook their faith a little, and then he went into that lame explanation about how he just meant "brain-washed" as in "washed in the blood of Jesus". That's not what he meant. As parents we need to teach our kids how to think critically and guide them into truth so that they can internalize it on their own-not brainwash them.

Originally posted by Benjamin:
It's almost as if she has trained for something like that her whole life.

It seems the Pastor in that show rather blew it telling the unbelievers exactly what they wanted to hear with the “brainwash” comment. Fortunately, being familiar with hearing the popular brainwash argument; which comes from unbelievers that can’t understand faith while thinking they see contradictions in the Bible, that men wrote it, all religions have bibles and their view of a god, and etc…; I humbly would have known better than to use that expression and don’t even think of it that way. Written in my heart is the command: Be ye not conformed to this world, but be ye “transformed” by the renewing of your mind,… and of course, this comes by the revelation of truths from within God’s Word.

FTW, (and I’m not saying that you were implying my comment about my daughter meant “brainwashed,” but on the subject…) to begin with from a personal experience, my washing came long after childhood as God guided me to see and understand the Truth so that argument would not hold at all from my perspective (not brainwashed as a child from parents, but rather from the “Lair”.) On the other hand, my children from a young age heard the truth, believed it, but also heard all about the ways of the world in which they are exposed to, which tried to brainwash them into having doubts, or into questioning how to justify what they see as the truth, but the truth always prevailed, and the Word of God always had the answers for me as a parent to give them guidance and strengthen their faith in the face of many tribulations. Thank God.

These tribulations have been hard on my children at times, but have resulted in nothing but strengthening their faith as the Word provided the answers they needed and so the transformation which renewed their minds allows them to prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God. Love that verse and use it often: (Romans 12:2)

My daughter has struggled deeply with the notion that she has never suffered enough (knowing that I came to God after much hardship) and sometimes tries to compare her faith and devotion to mine; thinking hers being “too easily come by” and she didn’t have that much changing to have to go through in comparison. But I have pointed out to her that in fact she has faced many hardships in trying to witness to others because of her deep love for the Truth, and faced these many struggles because of what is in her heart, and the pain that she feels about this can very well be compared to my hardships, only in a different way.

I also told both my children that I have been very blessed in God answering my prayers that my children did not have to face the same type hardships such as mine, but to not discount the persecutions and hardships they have faced from the “Liar” in this world that would love nothing more than to convince them to make more mistakes and to follow otherwise. It has served to make them strong. Anyway, enough rambling; I just wanted to point out that the “brainwashing argument” can be turned on it ear, and reversed onto the unbeliever's master.

 

[superwoman8977]

1. I've snubbed no one
2. You've bragged over and over agian about your ungodly life and intentions

Youve snubbed no one...Hahaha youve snubbed me on several occasions. I am not bragging about my ungodly life. I live my life for God, am I married no I am divorced, I am dating someone, am I wrong to get a chance at a new life, no I dont think so. I have been in the word and in prayer all weekend and the time is darkest right before the dawn so thats what I am hoping...that this is just one step before victory. If I am wrong then thats between me and God. God is right here with me through all of this. I have never seen his power as evident in my life as it was this weekend. I had an awesome time of prayer and fellowship with the Lord on my knees as well as in church yesterday. I am finally healing enough with the destruction of my marriage that I was able to pick up on one of my hobbies I had kinda left behind and thats baking. I made banana breads yesterday for my boss and my crew and made a strawberry shortcake for me and my son. Life is slowly coming back to normal and maybe in the next few weeks I can get back to my some of the things I used to do and enjoy besides baking like gardening, and cycling, and things I just kinda quit when my marriage died.

 

[superwoman8977]

:laugh:

I sure hope you don't need a plumber, electrician, or the like. If you do, I guess you can force them to accept Christ before they enter your premise.

:laugh: Now thats the funniest thing I have heard all morning. I cannot believe some of the logic of people in here.

 

[Brother Bob]

Why isn't there a "husband swap"?

:laugh:

I am sure there are some in the neighborhood Amy........:laugh:

 

[lbaker]

RE Jesus eating with the sinners at Matthew's house - whether they were invited or just showed up, if it was sinful for Jesus to hang out with them wouldn't we have a verse about how Jesus got up and left?

 

[dan e.]

RE Jesus eating with the sinners at Matthew's house - whether they were invited or just showed up, if it was sinful for Jesus to hang out with them wouldn't we have a verse about how Jesus got up and left?

Be prepared for the insane logic to show how this doesn't mean we should do the same.

Just watch....it's coming....and it is crazy...

 

[donnA]

Youve snubbed no one...Hahaha youve snubbed me on several occasions. I am not bragging about my ungodly life. I live my life for God, am I married no I am divorced, I am dating someone, am I wrong to get a chance at a new life, no I dont think so. I have been in the word and in prayer all weekend and the time is darkest right before the dawn so thats what I am hoping...that this is just one step before victory. If I am wrong then thats between me and God. God is right here with me through all of this. I have never seen his power as evident in my life as it was this weekend. I had an awesome time of prayer and fellowship with the Lord on my knees as well as in church yesterday. I am finally healing enough with the destruction of my marriage that I was able to pick up on one of my hobbies I had kinda left behind and thats baking. I made banana breads yesterday for my boss and my crew and made a strawberry shortcake for me and my son. Life is slowly coming back to normal and maybe in the next few weeks I can get back to my some of the things I used to do and enjoy besides baking like gardening, and cycling, and things I just kinda quit when my marriage died.

whatever.
Does every thread have to be about your divorce, and dating?
The bible says God does nto approve of divorce, yet you have accused Him over and over of doing evil.

 

[ShotGunWillie]

So, yeah, the show was pretty good and junk.

 

[Gershom]

One of the things I've noticed on this board is that there are posters who love to pick out the sin in others while they themselves are guilty of sin as well. Gluttony, gossip, haughtiness, etc. These are sins too, yet we love to pick on the sins most obvious, and especially in others.

 

[donnA]

Those sins get covered frequently here too, all 3 have been covered this year. This just happens to be current.
Everyone is guilty of sin, even you. We aren't to never discuss it and correct errors.

 

[Gershom]

Those sins get covered frequently here too, all 3 have been covered this year. This just happens to be current.
Everyone is guilty of sin, even you. We aren't to never discuss it and correct errors.

I know that I am guilty of sin. The point I wish to make is that we all need to do a personal inventory and try see where we are lacking before we throw stones. Remove the beam from our own eye, then we will be able to see clearly to help others where they have fallen short.

 

[donnA]

well, then, since we all sin, we should never be able to preach against sin, or say something is sin. No one could ever be confronted for their sinful lifestyle, because we have some kind of sin in some degree in our lives.

 

[Gershom]

well, then, since we all sin, we should never be able to preach against sin, or say something is sin. No one could ever be confronted for their sinful lifestyle, because we have some kind of sin in some degree in our lives.

We shouldn't refrain from preaching against sin, but we should remove the plank from our eye before we try and remove the speck from our brother's eye.

 

[donnA]

well, we will never be sin free till we're dead. I gues we'll have to wait till then to try and help a fellow christian. Under your thought, we have no right to tell anyone anything si sin, even the unsaved.

 

[Brother Shane]

reply to readmore:

Frankly, I don't care if you listen to "Wild Friday Night" or watch Wife Swap, so I don't know where you get "I better do it" from.

I said "I better do it" because you insinuated for us not to be quick to judge a show by its name. In other words, I should not judge "Wife Swap" and call it unGodly because of its name, I better watch it first and then draw my conclusion. Do you see why I said that now?

I've seen Wife Swap, and I'm telling you that the name doesn't have any reference to the unwholesome activity you think it does.

Inviting strangers into your home and confirming to their rules, teachings and beliefs is not unwholesome activity? Find scripture to backup your actions and where God would permit it.

To continue to condemn it as though it did doesn't do anyone any good.

It does not help your testimony when you're in favour of a show called "Wife Swap" because some Christians, as I and others, would not have anything to do with such a show and I would not even fellowship with you for agreeing with such. When you live a life for God, I do not believe you go around promoting a show to other Christians called "Wife Swap", and even if you THOUGHT about promoting such a show to me, you had better change the name because this Christian adheres to 1 Thessalonians 5:22, unlike others.

Using your analogy, what if some daring Christian friend listened to "Wild Friday Night" and found that it was actually a song about street preaching in downtown Boston, where people mocked the preaching of God, and yet sinners came to be saved?

Number one, if my Christian friend wanted me to listen to a song called such, I would ask what is it about. Also keep in my I do not have friends that would go against the commandments of God and do things that are worldly, and I also do not have friends that would give something wonderful (as a lost person getting saved) a name such as "Wild Friday Night" because there would be nothing "wild" about that. Second, a Christian song would not be named such because a Christian adheres to all scripture, and 1 Thessalonians 5:22 would not permit such. Third, I would not street preach at night time. Fourth, why would a Christian name the song "Wild Friday Night" if the main point of the song was to show how people got saved during a street preaching event? The topic would be about the saved, not all the demonic people that mocked God. You give GOD the glory, not them! And finally, to this day in such an unGodly world, I have never heard of a song given such a deceiving name portrays the truth about God. Remember that God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33) and giving a Christian song a name that is a name for something evil and demonic in the world today would be miXing truth and error, and we know they do not mix.

Ever heard that old adage, "Don't judge a book by its cover"? How about Proverbs 18:3: "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him."

So I must get drunk before I condemn it? And who is one to say that I did not research about the show? (or "hear" about it?) And there is a difference in trying something and hearing something, friend... Get that clear! "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me". (Psalm 101:3)

 

[superwoman8977]

One of the things I've noticed on this board is that there are posters who love to pick out the sin in others while they themselves are guilty of sin as well. Gluttony, gossip, haughtiness, etc. These are sins too, yet we love to pick on the sins most obvious, and especially in others.

Thank you so much because I totally agree. I wonder as I read through these posts how perfect people in here really think they are. The other thing I wonder is what would happen to them if they really had something earth-shattering happen to them as a spouse cheating on them or a child dying or something that would shake their faith so hard they could run to or from the cross. What would they do? Makes you wonder?

 

[donnA]

Thank you so much because I totally agree. I wonder as I read through these posts how perfect people in here really think they are. The other thing I wonder is what would happen to them if they really had something earth-shattering happen to them as a spouse cheating on them or a child dying or something that would shake their faith so hard they could run to or from the cross. What would they do? Makes you wonder?

Been there, done that. Ran to God. Ask some of those ladies in the private firum, it's been a couple of years, so not of them were here.
The bible tells us what sin is, and we are not to hide it and pretend we do not see it. Paul told the Corinthians they were supose to judge the man who was having s*x with his fathers wife. Was Paul perfect, or did he think he was perfect, did he think the other Corinthians were perfect.
no.
this line of thinking is not biblical.