Too bad they still miss the Gospel!
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Witnessing to Catholics
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No they don't.....where are you coming from Yeshua? Hands down, these folks actively preform gospel ..... but you know, you would need to have spent time with them to understand their stance as well as have a running dialog with them....maybe even going to their retreats & mission initiatives. I assure you, you will get a spiritual experience that most Protestant, Baptist & Catholics frankly lack.
They actually don't. They do some forms of charity and do good work in fighting for the lives of the unborn but that is not the gospel. Their gospel has taken the true gospel of Jesus Christ and added to it, making it not what it is supposed to be. It actually involves quite a bit of heresy - and this is from someone who was born and raised in the Catholic faith, went to Catholic school and has friends who are active in the leadership of the Catholic church
Franciscan?
Thy still hold to te Gospel ofRome, saved by grace and good works, correct?
It is very commendable what they do, but just as Masons.Shriners do many good work and deeds, non tof that saves you!
Are you saved by grace?
Yes, grace alone.faith alone!
Here is a excerpt taken from "Spiritual Practices of St. Francis" by James Choung
His view of the Bible
St. Francis brought an experiential level to the study of Scripture as well. He believed that the Bible should not merely be learned, but experienced and lived out. He distrusted Biblical scholarship of his times, though he was not completely disavowing the study of the Bible. One time, Francis himself demands the assistance of brothers learned in the Bible and skilled in the use of language, and he quoted extensively from Scripture, thereby exhibiting his own predilections to the study of the Word.
However, he does consider book-learning a real temptation, puffing up the mind. The Word should be studied, but prayer and self-sacrifice are the necessary pre-conditions for scholarly activity, so that each word is received with humility. The scholar of Scripture should not seek the knowledge of the Word as an end of itself. Instead, the Bible should not merely be learned, but its commandments should be obeyed. Francis writes:
A man has been killed by the letter when he wants to know quotations only so that people will think he is very learned and he can make money to give to his relatives and friends. A religious has been killed by the letter when he has no desire to follow the spirit of Sacred Scripture, but wants to know what it says only so that he can explain it to others.
This is an indictment of much of theological education today! The study of the Word must be taken as a spiritual exercise, meant for changing the soul, for cleansing the heart. Theological students today easily forget to pray before studying, ignore the application of their homework into their lives, and turn their studies into drudgery instead of a spiritual act of worship. Though Francis’ exegetical processes may be in want, his heart was absolutely correct. The Scripture was not written merely to be learned and spoken about, but it is to be lived out in the lives of Christians. Ultimately, the Scriptures are interpreted through Christian living. Rotzetter writes:
"To put it another way, Franciscan exegesis takes the risk of venturing into the realm of practical living before everything has been thought out and made safe. It makes the experiment of living with and from the gospel and experiences its spiritual character in action."
They are not Masons or Shriners or Boy Scouts or Robin Hood & his Merry Men. They are a unique religious organization, of mostly transformed people who try to emulate Jesus the Christ.
We need o appy what the Bible teaches, but that by itself saves none! Mother Therasa will go to Hell she di not receive Jesus thru faith alone, trusting on Him alone to save her, and not any of her good works!
My high school was Franciscan with Ursuline and Sisters of St. Joseph nuns.
I'm sorry, but who is talking bout good works...you or I? But let me ask you, after you are Transformed through the HS, does Matthew 5:13-16 and James 2:14 to 20 not have a place in your doctrine?
They were not ones then..... False "Good News" Go into the field, go to Nicaragua, go to Africa---try the missionaries.
They were not Catholic? I don't understand what you are saying. They taught the doctrine of the Catholic church as did the church I was baptized in and received my first communion in.
Those are catholic group, correct? So they still hold to the faGospl of Rome then, correct?
Thy are till taching doctrines of Rome, correct? So that would include thei false Gospel?
Oh they were Catholic all right.....just not what Id consider truly Franciscan.
Franciscan still hold to al of the Catholic doctrines of Rome, correct?
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