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Already addressed by me and you haven't shown how the greek is universal for all time, when in fact the tense gives allowance to be "I do not, presently, at this time, permit woman to teach." The problem with English is that it is not an exact language while greek is more specific. You have ignored this, even though I have presented it more than once.
Honestly, your response seems quite Pharisaic.

 

Do you believe in the Spirit?

 

Yes, but not honestly.

 

"Presently"

I am presently looking at all of the translations of 1 Timothy 2:12, and, I see no "presently"

What Does 1 Timothy 2:12 Mean? "But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness."

 

I have you the link where MacArthur lays the case for Universality. No point in trying to re type what he so thoroughly dealt with.

 

I said "similar," there is a difference bud. And yes, your's is an argument becoming of a liberal point of view, which doesn't actually deal honestly with the scripture, it simply uses "proof texts" in a lazy way - like what you did. Thankfully Scarlett corrected your strawman.

 

LOL, I did comprehend it, it was just a terrible argument that I have seen a million times. Why do you keep bringing up pentecostals? Is that supposed to give credence to your stance?

 

It seems you place Mac in a god like status on your mantle. Do you realize that Mac's dispensationalism is wrong? He is only human and he does not address the greek structure in 1 Timothy to acknowledge that English translations fail to clarify Paul's point.

Second, you still seem to ignore my position that men should, but women can.
Truth is there are many, many God gifted women from which you can learn the truths of God. They can teach you. Yet, God has given men a role of shepherding and protecting the body. Elders guide the flock with gentleness, mercy, and grace. If they fail to do this, they should be removed from office. If men in a congregation cannot learn from women, then those men are prideful and arrogant in their spirit. You never see Jesus degrading women or refusing to truly listen to them. In fact, it is obvious that his mom was instrumental in his human growth as a man.

 

Again, men should, but women can.
How to Use a "For" Clause: 1 Timothy 2:12 and Egalitarianism » Things Above Us

 

Scripture plainly says women can not. I place no faith in Mac, but he did build a Scriptural case I have not heard you refute.

 

Comprehension problems? Didn't I have to clarify that I said "similar" after your big ole' rant? Nor did I say typical of someone like you, nor did I say I presumed your position on sodomy. Nice try though .

A very large portion of Pentecostals are wrong on many things - many of them primary issues in regards to salvation. Your citing them also isn't an argument in favor of your position that women are eligible for the office of pastor.

 

Yes.

 

Yes, my words. Where did I say you are a liberal, or that you affirm sodomy? Are you capable of pointing me to that, or just misrepresenting what I said? "someone like you" Someone who uses the same style of argumentation.

So Pentecostals affirming women pastors proves your point that women can be pastors, as per the title of the thread? Gotcha, so MacArthur isn't your authority, but what Pentecostals do is. Outstanding! . My authority, like I said initially, is the word of God, not Pentecostals, MacArthur, or feelings.

 

Yes your misuse of Galatians 3:28, and the Corinthians references speak volumes of your passion for context. As to your fixation on the baptist vs. pentecostal thing, I suggest you start a new thread, as this is in no way relevant to your thread, nor does it in any way help your position. If one wants to know the truth, they'd be better served looking to the scripture for guidance, not denominations. Try and stay on topic.