Imprecatory Prayers - Your View?

maybe the church had an unfounded principle in "excommunicating" people, I thought that was a practice of the RCC anyway?

Are you one of these gloom and doom preachers?

 

Well, how much more random can we be? I don't have any idea of what you're talking about and won't waste the time researching something so radically random.

 

Um, you could not be more wrong. I know of NO IFB that IS against the war in Iraq, nor were they ever against it.

Yep, I'd pray they get saved before we march in and have to punish them until they submit to the authority we have in protecting ourselves and establishing the same freedom for generations to come or they will DIE.

I think you're misappliying the passage. There is a deadline to trying to win your enemies over, besides, when it comes to turning the other cheek, well, I've only got two, so how many more cheeks should I turn and how many times did we turn the other cheek concerning Sadam?

What I see here is either two things; the first you don't understand the passage, the other is you don't know how much the USA put up with out of Sadam before we acted.

We may have acted speedily in response to 9/11, but it is warranted and should have happened MUCH sooner, like 1996 or something.

 

Um, what about when Jesus told judas to "go do quickly"? I know this wasn't a "prayer", but it was certainly an action of God which ultimately ended with the death of judas and the Cross of Calvary. I think maybe you for got things like this. Besides, that line of thinking is evidence of humanism and its effects upon Christianity.

 

So you're telling me that this man was elected as Second Vice President of the SBC because the man who nominated him told a few good jokes? That in itself tells me a LOT about the convention.

 

Remember your post earlier? My prayer would have been that this man be given an opportunity to repent of his great sins and accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior before he died. That opportunity was taken away by his murderer.

Many "religious" folks are in favor of the death penalty and I am sure you know what states they live in.I costs more for a death penalty case than to put a person in prison for life.I agree with what you stated.

 

My point was to show how yesterday's orthodoxy and taboos have become today's orthodoxy and practice.

 

I see very little difference in the stock market over which I have no control than gambling for which I have no control. Working for our money is far more sure and seldom loses.

 

The Bible does talk about how fickle money can be.

 

Read I Tim. 2:1-3 to see different.


(v.1)"First of all, then, I urge that entreaties, prayers, petitions, and thanksgivings be made on behalf of all men,....(v.3)This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior...."

What is "good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior" is to pray on behalf of all men, not against men....not that men would die.

peace to youraying:

 

I think you're misappliying the passage. There is a deadline to trying to win your enemies over, besides, when it comes to turning the other cheek, well, I've only got two, so how many more cheeks should I turn and how many times did we turn the other cheek concerning Sadam?

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This is both the letter and the spirit of Christ's teaching on this.

Mat 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

 

Please don't derail the thread with a political issue, regardless of where you happen to stand on it.

Thanks, and FTR, the name of Wiley Drake was either placed in nomination for President of the SBC, last year at Indianapolis, or they planned to but did not, as because someone was ill, they and decided to withdraw it, with the someone not being present, and I don't actually remember which it was.

I did have either the fortune or misfortune to be approached by supporters of each and every candidate for that office, at the Convention.

One person's name was not placed in nomination for that reason, if my memory is actually correct on this. Perhaps someone else who was there with a better memory than mine can tell us who that person is.

Thanks,

Ed

 

Nice try, but it appears that it hasn't worked.

Ed

 

Originally Posted by Harold Garvey
Um, you could not be more wrong. I know of NO IFB that IS against the war in Iraq, nor were they ever against it.

Yep, I'd pray they get saved before we march in and have to punish them until they submit to the authority we have in protecting ourselves and establishing the same freedom for generations to come or they will DIE.

I think you're misappliying the passage. There is a deadline to trying to win your enemies over, besides, when it comes to turning the other cheek, well, I've only got two, so how many more cheeks should I turn and how many times did we turn the other cheek concerning Sadam?

What I see here is either two things; the first you don't understand the passage, the other is you don't know how much the USA put up with out of Sadam before we acted.

We may have acted speedily in response to 9/11, but it is warranted and should have happened MUCH sooner, like 1996 or something.

 

I am IFB, and am against both wars we have going right now, and am against the wars Obama is preparing for in Pakistan, Darfur, & Somalia.

 

Wouldn't it make more sense to pray for his salvation? I mean really, what Christian would prefer an unsaved man die rather tahn be saved? Could you imagine if Obama woke one day, called a press conference, and annouced that he was born again that night and started REAL change in DC?

 

Did you catch my response, Ed. I didn't introduce politics into the thread. Please read closely the post.

 

So you expressed your opposition during Bush's reign, right?

 

Yup. You know this, as we discussed it when you posted here under the "Just Christian" moniker.

How dare you.