Why Does "Arminian Theology" get A bad name here On BB?

"If"?

You've been shucking on arminians all this time, and you don't even know what the basics of arminianism are?

 

Just as Calvin wrote--which Quantum quoted--the gift of salvation is extended to all; i.e., "offered."

I once asked a young lady, if I bought all the tickets to a movie that she really wanted to see, and then offered her one of the tickets for free, nothing in return, wouldn't that be great? And to my surprise, she said no, she'd rather earn or buy the ticket herself.

The gift is offered to all; but not all will receive.

 

Yes "If". Not all arminians agree on all points of their ideologies.

 

About sums it up.

 

I take it, you're quoting those who say the same about calvinists? :tongue3:

As long as you're not trying to rope pelagians and semi-pelagians into the same group as classical arminians....

 

And niether do "non-arminians", and btw it is "theology" not ideology.

 

I think some on here "out-Calvin" John Calvin.......

 

Not one sinner who calls upon His sweet name, will He cast aside.

They refused to repent and believe the Gospel.

Never even alluded to a "universalist" stance. That is something you brought to this discussion, not me. Romans 5:6 states that "Christ died for the ungodly". Since all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, then that makes everyone ungodly, huh?

Well, this much I know, He died for me, and I am thankful for that. But again, go and read John 3:16 amd Romans 5:6, and you'll find your answer.

This sounds like a broken record or maybe you need to change your "needle". It's the same "song" you're playing over and over and over....

To quote a line from the '90's rap group Digital Underground"; All around the world, "same song".

 

They rope themselves well enough on their own.

 

Sufficient for all, efficient for those who believe in and have faith in Christ.

 

To borrow your line: :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Which is why some of the threads have been emphasizing supra, infra, and other variations on calvinism...not to mention classical arminianism, wesleyan arminianism, open view, pelagianism, semi-pel, lutheranism....

 

As I've stated in a couple of other threads, I am best described as primarily classical arminianism, with tendencies toward amyraldist calvinism.

 

this is horrendous.....Jesus accomplished redemption Heb9'12....he did not just make it possible.

This writer denies the actual substitutionary aspect of Jesus covenant death. Potential does not equal actual.

 

I am sorry YOU think it is horrendous. I do not share YOUR perspective.

 

I prefer the term extended. The rendering of offered is sending mixed signals.

So what in the world are you and QF trying to prove? I believe,as do all Calvinists that we should send out the proclamation of the Gospel far and wide --indiscriminately.

That has nothing to do with definite atonement.

 

All Convicted said was that I sound like a broken record saying the above.

But the question is : Do you agree with what I said or not?

 

QF,
I know you do not share this view. To say that the cross did nothing {unless} man adds to it....faith, belief, whatever, is to say that the crosswork did not actually do anything.
If no man adds faith or something to it......it did not save anybody???

Isa 53 declares;

Those who approach the cross in this manner...[potential, not actual] are attempting to re-write what scripture declares to be so. Then they try and smooth it over as if it were the same gospel.....but it is not according to the scripture.

Man has to believe in order to be saved...yes.
Men have to exercise faith...yes........and everyone believing will be saved.
There will be no one in hell who really wanted God's mercy instead of his sin.

For the writer to claim calvinists miss the issue is the point at which he lacks understanding.
I am glad you posted the article.The person was trying to find middle ground,and provide a solution that he "feels' might work for many.
I do not believe he has come to truth on this....saying the world is reconciled to God is ludicrous......al quieda is reconciled to God???? Not in my world.