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Featured free will vs. election???????

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by awaken, May 30, 2013.

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  1. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    Since repentance and faith are two sides of the same coin...did you somehow miss "faith" in your reply?
     
  2. Amy.G

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    I already went through this with HW. You can read my posts.
     
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    updated post
     
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    I did not see them, but at any rate I'll just chalk it up as another notch on your 'angry calvinist' meter. You've become quite cold and calloused since your re-re-conversion.

    Faith in Christ is bearing fruit, plain and simple. It is fruit of a changed heart.
     
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    What do I believe...You contradicted yourself here!
    You said I am correct but disagree with what I believe??????
     
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    Huh? I agree with you entirely :confused:
     
  7. Amy.G

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    I'm not cold. And I'm not angry. I posted a lot of scripture and explanation on the wicked servant last night. I just do not want to do it again.
    Maybe you could explain why you think he was saved and yet he will be in hell with the unbelievers.
     
  8. awaken

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    On my last post....you said you agreed then you said you took iconoclast over my belief on this subject. It was confusing to me and sounded contradicting!
     
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    Didn't I initially say I wasn't arguing that point? Parables are not to micro analyzed to create doctrine. I agree the servant was not saved.
     
  10. Amy.G

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    Then why are you arguing with me and saying I'm cold and calloused?
     
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    I said I agreed with IC that you should keep believing what you do...not that I agree with his position. What you believe (the absence of total inability found in Scripture) is what you should continue to believe as it is the truth.
     
  12. awaken

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    Ok..I see now!
     
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    I asked a specific question in regards to bearing fruit, specifically to your reply that "There are many people who "play" the Christian but if they don't have any spiritual fruit, then they really were never a Christian to begin with"

    The response to just spend my time going back through your posts is what was cold.
     
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  14. Amy.G

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    I thought you were disagreeing about the wicked servant. Yes, faith is a fruit. Repentance is not on the list. You seem to be talking about saving faith, but I don't think that's what the fruit of the spirit is. It's an extra filling of faith that some people have.
     
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    Um, you weren't too far off when pointing out the redefining definitions in her Calvinism. Check out the above definitions of faith. Faith is a fruit, but yet Calvinism says faith is a gift. Fruit can be the result of a work, but if faith is a work (as Calvinism erroneously defines it), that makes work a gift, then there's no gift that can produce works or fruit.

    So then the only solution is (snap finger here), change the definition of faith from text to text!

    That slight of hand was so slick nobody caught it.
     
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    all 3 servants were saved and held accountable for what the Lord gave them to do while he was gone--they were all 3 judged at the same time(judgement seat of Christ)its very evident you are rejecting this because you cant understand the other part.
     
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    JJump, glad to see you snuck back on here! :laugh: what will your next screen name be?
     
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    you say the same thing about the rich man and lazarus being a parable--yet you say it is literal--so why do you say this parable of the Steward's Servants is nor literal ??
     
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    I don't have a new screen name--and will not create another friend

    not my problem that folks are bound in tradition and reject truth--I understand I also was there and did the same thing.

    But banning from these forums will not solve the problem-as paul said it will be a terrible thing to fall in the hands of the living God..we all will face the FIRE as 1st Corinthians says--no matter how much we reject it--and the FIRE will BURN the wood,hay,stubble out of us :tear::tear:
     
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    So what turned you into an Millennial Exclusionist? How long were you saved before you adopted this teaching?
     
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