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Guys, y'all are being way too harsh on Brother Rick. He has made many salient ponts. Look, the church isn't a place where people come to socialize for ~2.5 hours a week and doing nothing the rest of the week. We are commanded to go and preach the gospel to every crreature, to make disciples out of people, to proclaim the whole gospel of Jesus Christ, &c. One can not do this sitting on their keyster. We are to teach the new converts the scriptures, with proper exegesis. We are to go and visit the homeless, feed the poor, lift up the downtrodden.

I am guilty of not doing enough of this, myself :tear:. He is calling for us to have a deeper understanding of God through what He reveals of Himself via the bible. He's calling for all of us to have a deeper education. We can do this through study, by reading other's works, by attending seminary, &c. I am not against seminary, but I don't want to place it upon a pedestal, eiither. But he has made many wonderful points that shouldn't go unnoticed.

 

That.......that is just rich.

 

Brother, that's nothing to ROFL about. I'm being dead serious here. I know he's been harsh with me on more than one occasion, but I have to admit it did cause me to study my theology out. But to post this is just uncalled for.

 

Yes of course it is. I am quite sure your defense of him has nothing to do with him be a follow cal.

 

Rolleyes all you want to. This does nothing to support your ROFL comment. Look, Jesus said if someone slaps your cheek, sluggem back, right? Wrong. You offer them the other chhek. If someone sues you and takes your coat, give them your cloak also. If a Brother trespasses/offends you, go to him and him alone, and talk to him about it. It's all about being humble whenever you feel your Brother has slighted you in any way. It's not to bash him back.


If Brother Rick has caused you to study more about whatever he's debating with you about, then he's done his job. If you haven't, then you have done yours.

If he's offended him, go to him via PM. But to joust with him in the open does neither of you any favors.

 

First I do not care how much he or anyone gets right. When they talk to people like that all the rest becomes irrelevant.

Second, I have not "jousted" with him.

Third, you prove my point about calvinist pac mentality right here right now. You want to scold everyone else for being too "harsh" on him but intentionally ignore his comments no matter how harsh they are. Your hypocrisy is showing. So is your pac mentality. If you are going to go to all the effort to call one out then call everyone out. Of course not everyone is a cal. Huh?


Anyway you will just have to live with your inconsistency. I will leave you to it.

 

Whoa Brother! Pump your brakes! I told you in an earlier post he has debated be probably as rough, or not rougher than, anyone on here. He stated somethings that were spot on, imo. I am finished here. I meant nothing ill, just trying to defuse the thread. Oh well.

 

I'm with you here Willis.

 

I SO agree with your brother on the calculator issue. Even in my lifetime in education, 28 years, calculators have been put in to use way too much, particularly in the earliest years of mathematics discussion.

Calculators, particularly advanced logic and graphing calculators have great value, but only after one has mastered fundamental and essential skills, in order that calculators become tools for use rather than substitutes for arithmetic and even algebraic computations.

 

I know Luke doesn't like "Old folks who think they love old things" but I will take advantage of my age to make a statement or two.

I have observed, based partly on my own experience, that young Christians reach a certain state where they become extremely self righteous. A dear brother in the Faith once told me: "When I was a young Christian I thought I could identify every person in the congregation who was saved or lost. Now I sometimes have doubts about myself!"

Those dear brothers and sisters who have never had the pleasure of seeing children or grandchildren navigate the teen years, and sometimes beyond, are in for some learning experiences and will probably have cause to, well enough said.

 

Brother Willis I think you are wrong. I made the following comment in a post to QF [post #60]. I believe it is appropriate here.

The tenor of the OP by Luke is harsh, unfairly judgmental, and serves no useful purpose other than to provoke a similar discussion. There was an old country song, I believe Roy Acuff sang it; something about "Sweep around your own front door"!

 

Friend, you know what you get from him if you apologize in a PM? A lecture. Absolutely no gracious acceptance at all. That's what happened the last time I apologized to him (and believe me, it is the last time), and why I have him on ignore and will keep him there.

Just sayin'. :tonofbricks:

 

WE know that but it doesn't matter to him. Luke is a cal and that is all that matters. Everyone who opposes a cal must be destroyed.

 

A little Scripture lesson for Luke! {Note: The above emphasis in the quote from the OP is mine!}

1 Kings 19:1-3; 9, 10; 11-18
1. And Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, and withal how he had slain all the prophets with the sword.
2. Then Jezebel sent a messenger unto Elijah, saying, So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I make not thy life as the life of one of them by to morrow about this time.
3. And when he saw that, he arose, and went for his life, and came to Beersheba, which belongeth to Judah, and left his servant there.

9. And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah?
10. And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.

13. And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?
14. And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
15. And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria:
16. And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.
17. And it shall come to pass, that him that escapeth the sword of Hazael shall Jehu slay: and him that escapeth from the sword of Jehu shall Elisha slay.
18. Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.

 

Another Scripture lesson for Lukie. I use "Lukie" to avoid confusion with the recorder of the following Scripture! {Note: I have taken the liberty of highlighting Lukie's more generous remarks in the above quote!}

Luke 18:9-14
9. And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10. Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

 

I assumed that as a pastor you had the ability to interpret the passage without my help.

Lukie it is obvious to all on this Forum that you are the perfect example of the Pharisee. Anyone reading the OP would come to the same conclusion. You do not admit you have a problem; it is anyone who disagrees with you who has the problem. Anyone who questions you or your perceptions is automatically uneducated or stupid. You are arrogant beyond measure. Your responses are bitter and hate filled. You repeatedly in your posts give the impression: I thank God I am not like this idiot whose remarks I must rebuke.

Anyone who questions whether or not you have the heart of a pastor should go back and read your posts in the thread Old folks who think they love old things of March 11, 2013. It is late or I would repost them myself. I did read all just to make sure I have the correct impression of you. I am not alone as many on this thread and the older thread have come to the same conclusion I have. You really need to spend some time examining yourself rather than condemning all about you. Frankly you are to be pitied but God did not have pity on the Pharisee of the parable!