Featured Why is it worth fighting over?

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Gos has never "tried" to do anything. He just flat out accomplishes it. Just like salvation. He has never "tried" to save one single solitary sinner. He saves them...period...

 

This could not be more wrong. A very sad and juvenile characterization.

 

So, what number is that one on your long list of jerk quips and insults? You're the one that is very sad and juvenile.

Reformed was pretty much spot on. I grew up in a SB church that gave that same wearisome extended appeal to the emotions invitation he described every single time they met, EVEN WHEN IT WAS ONLY MEMBERS PRESENT. RIDICULOUS! It's sickening and ultimately repulses more sheep than it appeals to.

The church is a sheep feeding institution, NOT a sheep manufacturer.

Soooo many of His little lambs have no choice but to eat that which you've fouled with your feet and drink that which you've muddied.

Now THAT'S sad.

 

You are entirely at liberty to disagree with Reformed's post. But to demean it as sad and juvenile it certainly is not. I don't see you rebuking the constant stream vile things that winman and van post --- what's that called? Oh yeah -- hypocrisy.

 

Exactly right.
He wanted to save those whom He foreordained to eternal life, BEFORE Adam's fall, He went and did it, no thanks to anybody but Himself.
He wanted to create a national israel for Himself out of the loins of one man, He went and did it, no thanks to Abraham's willingness and cooperation, either.
He wanted to show He was above death, He went and tasted it, then spewed it out at the grave, no thanks to anybody but Himself.
He wanted to show to His people that He has come, and gone, and is coming back again, He went and did it, through 12 unschooled men, and one converted Pharisee.
He wanted His word preserved for the benefit of His people, He did it, and nothing Satan can do can destroy it while He wants it on this world.
God is NOT a God of plans, He is a God of PURPOSE.

 

Amen pinoy!!

 

A preacher/teacher of the word of God would not be addressing those issues, at least not in giving out the Gospel itself,as the sinner needs to hear the Cross of Christ and His resurrection, and let the Holy Spirit do his work to save those whom God intends to save!

Once saved, then they can go into what the Bible states on atonement/grace/etc!

 

the Gospel message would be that Jesus died for sinners, died as our substitute, an that we are justified by his death/resurrection , and that ONLY receiving him thru faith saved us...

DoG important, but are to be seen as important after salvation!

 

Yea it is. It is also blatantly false. He chose to speak for others and place the emphasis in their mind for them. He doesn't know that nor can he. As far as what winman and van post I have commented on them. Van holds to heresy (open theism) and I do not give him the time of day. Winman and I have had several discussions about his posts and his unorthodox views.

I guarantee you even Icon will tell you I do not play favorites.


Anyway reformed's post was just mean spirited and untrue.

 

Agreed, as there are within the church reformed baptists, who hold to the entire Covenant system of theology, and others who would hold to it being mainly regarding Sotierology...

 

Do you think that you can stand upon judging God as to how he decided to have salvation offerred to lost sinners?
Think paul would agree with me that we cannot do that!

 

Rippon, it's okay. Really. I knew my post was not going to be well-received by some. I was surprised the esteemed Rev. actually read it. He announced that he blocked me last year. I'm sorry he views my post as sad and juvenile, but that is because I stepped on his presuppositional toes.

 

'The esteemed Rev'? In his own mind maybe. Specializing in jerk quips and insults does not make one 'esteemed', it reveals their true colors.

 

Pot meet kettle.

 

The so called "quirps" are in response to the hate filled mischaracterizations of non cals positions. If you do not like the fact that I call them out then too bad.

 

My judgment of God is much better than yours. I believe God loves everyone and desires to save everyone. You believe God passes by billions of persons he could save and lets them perish because it pleases him and brings him glory!

And I think you are going to be in for a real shock someday when you find out Paul doesn't agree with your views at all!

 

Where exactly did Reformed mischaracterize anything? Point it out specifically esteemed one.

 

He said "quips" not your neologism.

I sense a great deal of hate coming from you. Again, why the hypocrisy?