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1.) I didn't ask you to answer "Steaver"....I wanted you to answer ME!
2.) So, then, I now have your official position that the Billions of lost persons who will spend an eternity in Hell does NOT, I repeat, NOT make Icon, "Sad"...


So, then, it is the officially recognized position of Iconoclast that you are not one whit "saddened" or distraught that billions of people will spend a helpless eternity in a Devil's Hell.

This does NOT bother you, and does not make you "sad".

I am correct in this?

You are not at all bothered, saddened, emotionally distraught, nor worried that countless millions are going to hell. That's your position then.
You don't care. I assume you will answer with:
"Yes, I do not care, and am not at all bothered that billions will go to hell, but I rejoice in it"....

Can you affirm that??

 

And why should he care...its tween God and the sinner.

 

While what you list as the big problem is true, defining doctrines like election differently is also a problem in debate unless the debate is relagated to election alone. Should we endeavor to debate other doctrines that are weighted by election but do not define election the same then such debates are most likely going to lead to inflammatory misrepresentations because of the differing views of election. Many of the misrepresentations are not in fact strawmen but based on a view of the others position that is incorrect because differing views of the same doctrine like election.

 

Yet you wont go into a bar to communicate Christ to those in places you label as inappropriate.....your judgemental when it is a place and a people you detest. Get off your high horse and start living your Christianity.

 

you're a bald faced liar to think you know what all Calvinists and those who adhere to the Doctrine of Grace desire for those they love.

furthermore, you are an imbecile.
Love thy neighbor as thyself is not a God given emotion.
It is a command to fallen beings whose history is full of hatred for neighbors. witness how many wars since history started being written.
and witness your hatred for those who hold an opposite view to yours.
hypocrite !

 

Yes..it is a hatred....

 

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Can you affirm that??
what I can affirm is team anti Cal jihad cannot accept the response s given so no they need to twist what is said. .....to come out like they want.

your bitterness towards God and His righteous judgement reminds me of JOBS wife.......curse God and die.....then JOBS response....blessed be the name of the Lord.

 

Not personal hatred though... its hatred of Doctrines of Grace. So the plan of attack is to discredit DOG as invalid, immoral and void of emotion. Good luck with that....but the arguement doesn't stand up in the light of the gospel. But still they try. Steve has been pushing that agenda for quite a while though.....now here is the thing though, I don't see him displaying his Christianity! And that is what I find soooo sad. See I don't need some Ajax screaming at me that I'm doing the wrong thing when I'm in a bar eating and drinking with sinners cause my eye is always looking for those broken and in need of the lord, and I don't need the guy telling me I'm not correct in my doctrine when I'm pulling people outa some hole they got themselves into.....what I need is guys who get it....who touch the flesh of the downtrodden and recognize Christ in that poor unfortunate....I need guys that see and protect and cherish life on this side of life who lend a hand ....not someone worried who goes to hell and who goes to heaven. Let God sort that out .... my consern is right here right now.

 

That is because all men are fallen.
you, I, Calvinists, pagans, atheists.
If there were no Spirit of God dwelling in us then we would not know what love is.
you do not glorify God.
you accuse Calvinists of being unable to come to grips with what you call the logical conclusion of their beliefs and doctrines, but you dodge what is obvious that I stated about the logical conclusion of your beliefs.
that instead of glorifying Him and thanking Him for your soul and your totally undeserved salvation you imply you will turn around and question Him why He did not also save your kin.
That is rebellion, impertinence, and a lifting up of your love over God's.
Repent.
Then you go on accusing others of being callous, insensitive, and prideful.
you're an imbecile.

 

Steve....nobody goes to the Lord without first being regenerated by the lord to do so.....so in my pov and Penoys you would really have to be a true imbecile to reject God......so if your kid, my kid and Pinoys kid rejects Him, then what do you expect the true believer in Christ to do....wallow in the fact that people reject Christ? Thats rediculious....rather we believe they would never accept him....never ever....so why go through the bother of agnosing over someone who is a infidel from before the foundations of the world?

 

You go and believe what you want to believe....I haven't a problem with that....but shut up about what I believe. By criticizing and attempting to discredit what I believe, you are just making yourself look arrogant. Is that what you want to project yourself as? Because guaranteed, anybody (especially a Calvinist) will just shut you down mentally and then ignore you. I know you sincerely believe you are right but that certitude you carry around with you and project in every one of your posts doesn't get it done and probably alienates you.