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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by evangelist6589, Aug 3, 2014.

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  1. preacher4truth

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    Agreed which makes their error more glaring IMO.

    Your a solid Pelagian. (an oxymoron, I know). But you are, your track record and teaching proves this.

    Minus Calvinists of course. :)

    You've failed in the doctrine of sin here many times. You're in error. You're Pelagian.

    Wrong. You've just preached others do say this in your prior post. If I asked you 'Who are you kidding?' the answer would be yourself.

    BTW, if a person does not do good works, they are in fact not born from above. You preach they are. Christ denies your false teaching. :)
     
  2. kyredneck

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    How? Both have made the same mistake as the Jews and hold to gospel regeneration:

    Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me; Jn 5:39

    As a result both hold to the same doctrine of hardline restrictivism as the Jews:

    ...this multitude that knoweth not the gospel are accursed. Jn 7:49

    Why? This is where the distinction between the two is made:

    Synergism: the doctrine that the human will cooperates with the Holy Ghost in the work of regeneration.

    Monergism: the doctrine that the Holy Ghost acts independently of the human will in the work of regeneration.
     
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  3. preacher4truth

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    Amen!

    Which shows the dilemma and fallacy of Nicodemus, yet we have many who follow his same pattern of error, which is pelagianism and other dissident belief systems that rest squarely on the shoulders of men, and not upon God Himself.
     
  4. Winman

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    Why don't you just admit you were wrong. :rolleyes:

    Pelagius wasn't a Pelagian. A Pelagian is a non-existent "Boogie Man" Calvinists made up to keep the "faithful" in line. The Catholics have used scare tactics like this to keep folks in line for centuries. As the mother, so the daughter.
    Thou hast said

    I am not a Pelagian and you know it. But I will say this, I would rather be called a Pelagian than a Calvinist.

    I preach that a person who believes on Jesus Christ to save them is born again.
     
  5. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Excuse me but "do you preach or do you teach?"
     
  6. preacher4truth

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    Because I am not. They all believe it possible, if not they are not truly Arminian.

    You're a Pelagian in every sense of its meaning today. Your teachings are dissident.

    And there you have it, you, a Pelagian calling alleged Calvinists lost, or, children of the great whore.


    Exactly. Most of us know you'd rather side with error than with truth. This shows more than anything you're Pelagian in doctrine. Your track record here shows you in grave error.

    Of course you do -- you popishly declare heaven their home because they've made mental assent to facts. Contrarily the Holy Spirit via Scripture shows what true conversion really is. You do greatly err as you preach easy believism convincing others they are guaranteed heaven while Scripture shows what a true believer is and what an impostor is.
     
  7. Winman

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    Give it up, you are trying too hard.

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  8. kyredneck

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    :thumbsup: Good post Icon.
     
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    :thumbsup: Another good post Icon. He's rather like an 'adolescent attention seeker', don't you think? :D
     
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    He's only a thread killer if you can read his posts. Thankfully I cannot.
     
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    He is yet another 'adolescent attention seeker'.
     
  12. Earth Wind and Fire

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    And so you vilify him because he said what he believes?

    Now I don't agree with the man -- he still is in rebellion, but he has his reasons for being so (valid or invalid) ... so keep working with him....remember Willis and Amy:love2::love2:
     
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    With all due respect....I view him as a work in progress.
     
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    Actually he hit the nail right on the head about you. You love easy-believism, deny the Lordship of Christ, and sometimes I wonder if you believe in a literal Hell that will burn forever. Do you?

    You also need to re-read the book of James especially James 2:24.
     
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    Brother John, I found this and think it might help you as you study this out further:




    I hope this helps.

    http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/7718/Jonah.htm


    I cut and pasted this from the goof I made posting it erroreously in another thread....Brother KYR showed me my gaffe...:saint:
     
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    Don't be bashful Willis, show him the rest! It was good! Never mind, I'll do it:

     
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    There ya go... Thanks Larry.
     
  19. Yeshua1

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    Just a question:

    Is a sinner receiving Jesus thru.by faith a work of God, or a "good work" by your understanding?
     
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    It all depends on how you define 'easy believing/lordship of Christ!"
     
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