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The heart changing changes the will...

A hardened heart will never be receptive to the engrafted word, the seed...

But a heart of love that God gives, taking the stony one out, changes the will...

 

Really.....lets take a look. That is a serious accusation...lying !I changed my mind?....well let's see what you posted on this-

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yes He does,,,He did not have to elect any.
He for His own purpose elects a multitude of guilty sinners to be saved by His Son.

And then;

This is a lie and vicious charge against God himself. Did that good article say that? Did Lorraine Boettner say that...lets look-

No he did not...so it was you who lied once again....It says they were considered dead in their sins....
The article did not say these people were only created for hell and that they did nothing at all...in fact the confessions of faith do not say that at all....

The conf speaks of the others left to act IN THEIR SIN and go to the just condemnation...look it is right here;

Another lie. Show anywhere that this is taught by any responsible cal.

If you cannot be truthful you should step down from your supposed role as a teacher of anybody. This is horrible

 

You and others have once again caught DHK telling falsehoods.
He now will jump all over the place to confuse the issue as he often does.

He claimed that non elect people get saved, but offers no proof.

 

the article says this;

For any who can read without lying, you can see the explanation given is biblically consistent.

 

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3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

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16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.

prov 21 The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
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14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.

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21 And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.

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48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed

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4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.

7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia.

8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing.

9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

 

DHK

Your posts say something different

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it does not look that way.

not at all. this is why they say you are confused

It does not really happen that way...predestination is a positive act toward the elect. The others are left or passed over[preterition]

God never has to change His mind. Why would He?

whatever comes to pass has been decreed.

they always choose sin

yes....we see the results of that in the error you post.

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Most of the believing church comes to know these truths:applause:

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okay...

what verse do you have on this election.

unsaved religious people pray, God sometimes answers the prayer of the unsaved...they still go to hell however.

you have not pointed out any inconsistency, just your unbelief.:thumbsup:

 

If there was no sin in them, what was it in Eve that enticed her to disobedience at the tempting of the serpent ? At her temptation sin that was in her already was manifested ! Adam and Eve had no love for God in their hearts when they were created, so they were sinful from the start !

 

What scripture says that sinful man can choose spiritual good ? That statement is invalid and false ! Those in the flesh cannot please God Rom 8:8 !

 

No lies Icon, only Calvinistic contradictions. They were "elected before the foundation of the world," before the world was even created. They were not "in Adam," had not sinned, etc. They had not done or had a chance to do anything. They were not even created yet. They were predestinated before they were created.
Calvinists redefine words according to their theology.
Consider: Predestination does not CAUSE willful choice or sin.
Neither does foreknowledge. Just because God foreknew some event does not bring the event to pass. He is omniscient. Omniscience is not the Cause.
But Calvinistic doctrine has a warped theology that has put God as the author of evil, the Creator of a select group of people predestined to the Lake of Fire. They were and are created for that purpose--no chance to repent--so says the Calvinist!

 

a wrong view of foreknowledge
God is not the author of sin...no cal says that.
this is as foolish as Steavers sermon

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This is by far one of the greatest works I've ever read on the subject concerning the very heart of the Christian faith: redemption. Systematically going through the aspects of both the accomplishment of redemption and its application to the believer, Murray leaves the believer with nothing but a humble fear and an unquenchable joy because of the person and work of Christ the Savior.

The book is laid out as follows:

Part 1: Redemption Accomplished

1. The Necessity of the Atonement
2. The Nature of the Atonement
3. The Perfection of the Atonement
4. The Extent of the Atonement
5. Conclusion

Part 2: Redemption Applied

1. The Order of Application
2. Effectual Calling
3. Regeneration
4. Faith and Repentance
5. Justification
6. Adoption
7. Sanctification
8. Perseverance
9. Union with Christ
10. Glorification

After taking the reader through the Scriptures as they pertain to each of these topics, one cannot help but to bask in the glory of being united to Christ, rest peacefully in the redemption He accomplished for your sake, and look forward boldly into the future when we shall be glorified with Him because of what He's done.

This book is going to be one that I'll read over and over again. It never gets old, and its audience is never unfit. Whatever your current status in your walk with the Lord, this book will refresh your heart and convict your soul - to the glory of Christ our Lord and Savior! (less)

 

Any time you post a statement (not now) that is not posted in truth and in sincerity, it is posted "in the flesh," and it is a "carnal post."

 

Again:

What scripture says that sinful man can choose spiritual good ? That statement is invalid and false ! Those in the flesh cannot please God Rom 8:8 !

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Everyone not born of the Spirit is in the flesh !

 

dhk

Uh, please provide the scripture that says this ?

Scripture is quite clear that those in the flesh cannot please God Rom 8:8 !

Also mans heart by nature cannot repent. Paul says of the carnal and natural heart Rom 2:5

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

That word impenitent is the greek word ametanoētos and means :

I.admitting no change of mind, unrepented, impenitent

All men by nature have a hard heart towards God, so God must take away the heart of stone we have by nature, as like stated here Ezk 36:26

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony[hard] heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

So until God takes away a hard impenitent heart like Rom 2:5 it remains unrepentent ! It cannot please God Rom 8:8 its not subject to God Rom 8:7

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

So all you are doing is making false invalid statements that contradict scripture, which is to glory in man ! You glory in man !

 

"robot" :tongue3:

 

Romans 8:8; Heb.11:6; and many others.
The fact is that believers are not perfect. If you say you are you need to read 1John 1:8,10. Every sin you commit is of the flesh. It is carnal. It does not please God. Wouldn't you agree with that? Does your sin please God. Even the disciples had lack of faith at times. Do you also?

Correct, and he is addressing believers. Believers ought not to live as unbelievers.

Chapter two of the Book of Romans is directed to the Jews. They thought they were better than everyone else. Paul is pointing out that they were not. The committed the same sins as others, and by doing so were gathering up "wrath against the day of wrath" when the time would come when they would stand before God.

You are conflating two very different contexts.
Calvinism has it backwards. Faith and repentance comes first. And then regeneration. Once an individual repents, then God gives a new heart. Why should he do it before that time?
Besides that, the passage specifically addresses the Jews.

Fits in nicely with James 4:4, also written to believers. "Whosoever therefore is a friend of the world is the enemy of God." God detests things that are done in the flesh--worldliness.

No, they harmonize with scripture when understood in their proper context.

 

Have you not read the account of Nicodemus coming to Jesus.
Jesus answered him saying: "You must be born again."
He said: How can a man be born a second time..."
"Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh; that which is born of the spirit is Spirit."
"Marvel not that I say unto you, ye must be born again."

First, we are all born of the flesh, and we will always have a flesh nature.
That flesh nature will never leave us until we get to heaven.
The problem is that we are not all born of the Spirit. That was Nicodemus's problem. He needed to be born a second time--of the Spirit.

How?
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
--He had to accept the free gift that Christ was offering him at that time.

Christ goes on to demonstrate that in the next few verses culminating in verse 16.
John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.