Featured Would Issuing a Marriage License to Gays ..... be a Sin?

Did he cause them to drink no but did he help supply it for them yes! Did he help them get drunk and thus participate in their sin? God knows that one! God would have convicted him of it and his sould would have been vexed daily if he had, so was it?

 

It was in response to your reply to another member that no one would ever not be allowed to resign. Laws are in place to override resignations if "needed'.

 

Okay, I'll concede your premise:

If President Obama (or a succeeding President) declares a national emergency where he or she takes over all of the resources of the nation, draft all of the citizenry into military service, and have the majority of the armed forces, police agencies, federal, state and local governments support him or her - THEN it MIGHT be possible that a county clerk will not be able to resign and will be forced to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple, or face penalties.

Do you consider this premise likely? I do not.

If this happens, I will be happy to revisit this line of argument.

 

Notaries are simply for recognizing something as a legal document. It's not an endorsement.

Are they not gonna notarize a house deed fro property that two same sex people buy together? Are they not gonna notarize liquor licenses? What about the business licenses for the strip clubs or the retail stores that sell pornography? Are they not gonna notarize the renewed alcohol licenses of bars?

If a clerk, as a follower of Jesus Christ, is being consistent with their convictions, then they shouldn't be a clerk because they have to notarize as legal documents a lot of things that don't exactly speak to the things of Christ.

 

I never asked. I know it's not a job I would personally want.

But it's the age old grocery store dilemma. I shop at a grocery store that sells alcohol. Am I helping supply the alcohol by patronizing the store with my dollars?

Or TBN. There are some pastors on there who I really like and I think they do a good job of presenting the Gospel. But there are some that need to be taken off the air and never heard from again.

By supporting TBN, are we responsible for their errant teaching going out over the airwaves?

 

My train of thought was going the same way. There's just a litany of things that this could open the door for.

Like you said, if a clerk can say, because of my religion, I don't want to issue them a marriage license, can a realtor say that because of their religion, they don't want to sell them a house? How about the car salesman? Can grocery stores say we don't want you to shop here as a couple?

The list becomes endless of things we could say gives the impression of us endorsing their sin.

 

Then it going to go if Christians willing sell them homes and issue them license of do this or that for them then they must let them be church members and get married int the church.

It won't be long!

 

I just don't see how any of that is related to them being church members and getting married in the church.

 

The church doesn't decide what sin is. This sounds like a church that tells the kids that dancing is a sin.

 

What about open-toed shoes on women? If the local church says it's a sin, is it?

What is this thinking - - Christian version of Sharia law?

 

Salty is applying 1 Corinthians 8:
"But take care this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. ...if his conscience is weak....and by your knowledge this person is destroyed.... Thus sinning against our brothers......you sin against Christ..."
Sorry for the abridged paraphrase. On this instance it involves food that certain members in the church believe is a sin. Same thing can be applied to clothing, dancing, work for beer manufacturing, etc.....

Working for a beer manufacturer its self is not the sin. If we cause moral harm to someone due to that job, then we have sinned.

*so if a church(congregation) holds views against dancing or working for Miller and you do these anyway. Chances are you sin, not for the acts them self. But the damage you do agaisnt your brothers conscience.

 

Seems to me the person that claims wearing a certain piece of clothing is a sin is the brother with the weaker mind.

 

Correct. However, if we do harm to their weaker conscience, the sin is on us.

"Wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin agaisnt Christ".

*Paul later goes on to say, "Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat again, lest I make my brother stumble."

 

Absolutely agree. But don't forget Romans 15:1 -- We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

 

If such covenant existed. I don't many are out their, and I know of no churches with such a covenant. The SBC has many churches that look at(predominant teaching inside church) beer and wine ad sinful. I don't know of any with a covenant (promise) agaisnt beer and wine.

 

Many/most, SBC churches and other Baptist churches have a covenant which hangs on the wall in that covenant it states. "...we also engage...to abstain from the sale of and use of destructive drugs or intoxicating drinks as a beverage;...to be zealous in our efforts to advance the Kingdom of our Saviour."

Link to Lifeway where the wall hanging Church covenant can be purchased:

http://www.lifeway.com/Product/wall-chart-church-covenant-P001149061

It can be seen enlarged by clicking on an icon at the bottom in order to read it.