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Why i don't believe in a Post-Trib view...Who would be left to populate the Millennial Kingdom?

EDIT...Changed to Post Trib, not Pre Wrath

 

Jon, welcome to Baptist Board.

No one know why OldRegular is so mad about John Nelson Darby. But he really doesn't like John Nelson Darby. He always refers to John Nelson Darby whenever dispensationalism is discussed. He writes John Nelson Darby a lot, always using his full name, like the FBI naming assassins: John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, etc.

 

Thanks for the welcome! He thinks a pre-trib rapture is all about "escapism," which is 100% false.

Satan is seeking whom he may devour, thus we have Christian Persecution.

God, During the Trib, will pour out His wrath on the Earth...Why would God personally slap around His Son's Bride (Hence an Enoch-esque Rapture)?

 

Thanks for the welcome! He thinks a pre-trib rapture is all about "escapism," which is 100% false.

Satan is seeking whom he may devour, thus we have Christian Persecution.

God, During the Trib, will pour out His wrath on the Earth...Why would God personally slap around His Son's Bride?

 

Problem being there is no Scripture offered to back up OR in this matter. Rather, because he assumes his statement true, it is true. Sort of like when someone lies, they actually can get to a point of believing the lie. Not to say OR is a liar in the slightest!

What I have asked is for proof from Scriptures. Even opened another thread about Darby, and go not a single proof of error from any member of the BB.

I am NOT defending the man. I haven't read enough of his writing. But what I have read seems to follow pretty close to the Scripture.

 

God took Noah out of the way of his wrath, providing him with safe haven. God took Lot and his family out of the path of his wrath. So there is precedence.

 

I tend to have a different view on Noah, although i like where you are going. God saved Noah THROUGH His Wrath, Just like He will do with the Jewish Saints of the Great Trib.

I believe the Church is more like Enoch, removed before the flood.

 

There is also this:

1Th_5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Those who are are anything other than pretrib redefine the tribulation as being something other than the wrath of God

 

I tend to have a different view on Noah, although i like where you are going. God saved Noah THROUGH His Wrath, Just like He will do with the Jewish Saints of the Great Trib.

I believe the Church is more like Enoch, removed before the flood.

 

The church will return with Christ for the Millennium.

 

I misapplied my statement...i meant i Do not believe in a Post-Trib Rapture...my apologies

 

yea post trib rapture makes no sense

 

I have it, I'm not using it now. You want it?

Here ya go...

 

Personally, I am premillennial and have a great hope in a pre-trib rapture.

One of my favorite songs by Stuart Hamblin is found here.

 

The assumption of Mary has as much Biblical Basis as the pre-trib-removal of the "parenthesis" CHURCH! More perhaps since the CHURCH is not a "Parenthesis"!

 

Error should always be pointed out!

 

It is an illustration. The RCC can make up any doctrine they want to and defend it by means of "argument by silence." Any doctrine can be read into the Bible: the Assumption, infant baptism, perpetual virginity of May, even alien life on Mars--the Bible doesn't speak against it?? Some of your theology is like that. It is defended by means of "eisigesis," or from silence of scripture. Much of allegory is like that. If it isn't there, make up a story about it.

As for the other method of defending or attacking doctrine, doing so by means of history is not valid. The trinity is not true on the basis of what some Catholic council declared. It is true because it is taught in the Word of God. It is not true because of what the CofF's say. It is true because of what the Bible teaches. Too much dependence on the works of men, whether it be a Roman Catholic Catechism or a Baptist Confession of Faith is unhealthy. The doctrine must stand or fall on the Word of God.

 

Do you really want to go around and around on this again? I have already shown that Ryries admits that dispensation does not a Dispensationalist make, and I can also quote Ice as saying that Darby is the Father of Dispensationalism, both of whom are in your camp, and considered leaders in your camp.