Featured Where does faith come from? 2nd Rodeo

It is God that saves.
Bro. Joseph (with your support) asks the question, why does God save one and not the others if they all hear the gospel?
I answer: Why were 10 lepers healed and only one return to give thanks and worship God. You expect me to give an answer to a question that Jesus himself doesn't answer. God knows the answer to both the question and the heart. Why are you asking me? Are you questioning his methods and plans? Or perhaps his sovereignty?
As soon as you make that irrational jump...then all should be saved, then you question God.

 

Part of the issue of DHK's misplaced theology stems from his thoughts and presuppositions on the position of man and God. It goes much deeper than this, but that is the basis.

DHK believes things come from man, such as faith. This is a subtle denial of God's omniscience but only on the surface does it appear to be subtle. When hashed out theologically, it is a fatal error. Discernment is needed to defend the faith from these false teachings; Jude 1:3, note Hebrews 5:11ff.

What he fails to realize, or at the least to utilize at all times in his theology is that God is the source of all things. All things. Not just some things. Everything. All power to live, breath, walk, think are given to man by God in this realm of time.

Since from God's Word comes faith, then that source of faith is directly from God Himself. To believe this is to hold to a consistent view of Him via the revelation of truth that all comes from Him. Doing this, preaching this is rightly dividing the Word, 2 Timothy 2:15.

DHK stated that faith comes from the Word (and I thought perhaps he was getting on the right track but that was short lived) then he undoes that belief of the truth with his presuppositions, defense of his Finney-like system by stating 'but not from God directly'. A half truth is not truth. God will not be patronized or flattered by this type of wresting of the truth He has revealed.

Everything that we have comes from God directly, and some abuse what power He has granted, by living in sinful ways, yet God even allows this.

We can do nothing without Him, we receive all things from Him; Job 1:22; Job 2:10; John 15:5; John 3:27; 1 Corinthians 4:7; Romans 10:17. There is plenty more but the fact is that it is God who is Omnipotent and Sovereign from which all these things come. For a person to deny that faith, that comes by His spoken Word, does not come from Him directly is a calamitous error and denial of truth.

 

Sure they are.
"Hath God said, he shall not eat..."
"...ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
--Were those Scriptures addressed to you as well?
--Everything has context. If the context is not known the scripture often does not make sense.
For example:

1 Chronicles 26:18 At Parbar westward, four at the causeway, and two at Parbar.

BTW, just how does the above scripture apply to you?

When you take scripture that are promises to Israel and apply them to yourself I consider that just as out of context as Genesis 3:1,5--The serpent, the father of liars, speaking to Eve.

We benefit from all Scripture, but not all scripture is applicable to us.

 

I gave you a rational answer and you just rejected it. Amazing. Like I said before, when I used a much stronger word, it is the equivalent of insulting God when you question his ways.

 

IT just said:
Part of the issue of DHK's ... stems from his thoughts and presuppositions on the position of man and God. It goes much deeper than this, but that is the basis....

Thank you Dr. Freud for your input. This is not a forum for Freudian view points or psychiatric analyses. You may take your philosophies and put them elsewhere.

 

I agree. Does that mean it is applicable to you?
John 8:44 for example?

 

You spend much time here questioning His ways, but it doesn't end there, as you also mitigate His Authority on earth by taking passages out of context. You're so ready to do this and you do it willfully.

 

PLEASE!!! Take your accusatory sewage and spew it elsewhere.
We don't need it here.
If you are not here to debate, there is a door. You are welcome to leave.

 

You've been shown your error enough times. All of it stems from your faulty understanding of doctrine, false presuppositions and other errors.

Now, nothing I said was Freudian, it was actual, tangible and experiential, and many can attest to it being a right representation of you.

It is also noted you left out the Scriptural portion that exposes your errors, and shows how and why you are in error.

 

Got anything to debate, or are you going to continue to pretend what you level on others is true just because you stated it? You're crying now? after calling me 'Freudian' and telling me 'where I can put it'?

We all know what you meant by that.

Now actually go back and debate the theological framework I laid out and show where it is in error. Wrest, twist, misrepresent some more.

 

It applies to those who practice lying, yet say they believe. John 8:30 for instance, as these are the same indicated in John 8:44.

 

Exclusive. Now, the theos pneustos that we are privileged to hold, read, preach states ALL Scripture is profitable. That doesn't mean all of it is easily understood, applied, exegeted. It also doesn't mean 2000 years after it was written one is allowed to come along and change its truth to fit his theological beliefs and undo its truths. Yet God will allow this behavior.

 

Gotcha, my fault brother!